controversy over toilet humor and statue nudity, etc. in movies... are religious people the only ones offended?

nolies32fouettes's picture

Are people taking movies too seriously? There's some interesting websites out there that can help a person determing what movies to see. Want more spirtuality? got the website for that. Want less spirituality? Well, people claim there's already TOO MUCH of that!

But let's say you're worried about nudity in movies. Afterall, there's nothing more embarrassing than watching a movie and a little hugging and kissing starts. And as a kid, you can only imagine MY reaction when REAL SEX comes on and I'm watching the movie with my parents. (Of course it's even funnier to watch them blush!)

But are people taking nudity too seriously when they have to RATE THINGS like NUDITY IN STATUES? But Christians have a belief that the word of God talks about not revealing yourself to others and as such they follow the dictums of the Bible:

"While nudity itself is not sinful, display of it is, whether at the Sistine Chapel, the New York Metropolitan Museum, or in Heartbreakers< . God speaks of nudity as shameful many times in both the Old Testament and New and in no case I can find does He provide conditions under which intentional display of nudity is acceptable. He even advised priests to not climb the steps of the altar to avoid letting the wind expose them to the crowd below [Ex. 20:26]....When Jesus changes His Word, I will change our investigation standards."

READ this titilating excerpt--which I admitedly laughed at while reading--and I haven't seen this movie:

"For some time I have been getting on the case of statue nudity in movies. This R-13 movie provides justification for it. In The Wedding Planner Steve is caught "fondling" the privates of a male nude statue which also become super-glued to his hand (part of the avulsed parts then becomes a memento for Mary). In Heartbreakers< , in addition to Tensey tapping the breast of a female nude statue with his cane, there is a sexually excited male nude statue with exaggerated excitement (another push of the envelope of acceptability). The statue's excitement gets broken off and ends up at the mouth of a prone and incapacitated Tensey, much like the drawing of a male member on the cheek of a high school boy in Ten Things I Hate About You.

Note that all three of the above named movies are rated PG-13! Is this yet more evidence of the "R-13" trend showing up in PG-13? First, movies gave glimpses of statue nudity. Then came progressively more bold and longer visual contact. Now male statue nudity is shown in an excited state. All in the name of entertainment. If the display were of a live actor, the movie would have been rated X. But then, what better way to get more invasive sexual matters into movies for younger and younger kids to get the younger and younger dollars? Note also that more than twice as many teens go to the movies than adults -- a culture-shaping reality. Many evil men over the ages have realized the best way to shape a culture is to manipulate the minds of youth. Even the National Education Association (NEA) knows that."

Does this go too far? are Christians the only ones worried about this? How does the average person feel about nudity and statues in movies? What abour Shrek or other movies made with the notion of entertaining both adults and children.

Is there a legitimate controversy in statue nudity or toilet humor in movies?

is a 'stand in' for the real thing.

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

nolies32fouettes's picture

I dont get particularely offended by nudity, in fact I find it more offensive when people get embarassed over it. I think we make a much bigger deal out of it than it actually is.

In some of these "stand in" type comedies, the humor is dirty no matter WHAT is providing the object of innuendo. But i've seen review sites that catalogue even normal "artistic" statues with nudity. for a movies nudity score. Its pretty stupid in my mind. i think it hits a point where you have to stop looking to see the nudity, and just accept the atmosphere of the film.

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

It's not a kids movie.

But do adults deserve adult humor for themselves?

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

nolies32fouettes's picture

no way was it a kids movie. But thast the deceptive thing about a pg13 rating. Parents look, and see "pg", the studio looks and sees "13" and they dont entirely mesh for what the consumer wants interms of "cleanness"

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/missionimpii.htm

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

nolies32fouettes's picture

ah yes, i'm familiar with that site....possibly a valuable tool, but i think they skiop many of the positive items in movies because they'd rather focus on the mirror that may or may not have a reflection of someones breast, or the idea that movies showing disobedience are NOT OK. Taking it WAY too seriously.

(I never heard of them before. ) They evaluate The De Vinci Code which I've never had the inclination to see:

http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0002699.cfm

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

nolies32fouettes's picture

the da vinci code pisses everyone off. Poeple hate the movie because its not as good as the book, if they liked the book. Or they hate the movie AND teh book becuase it has another idea of Christianity that differs from mainstream teachings. Either way, i have yet to find anyone who actually liked the da vinci code...

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

nolies32fouettes's picture

I very rarely have time, or money, to go see movies.

Not even my undying adoration of Audrey Tautou was enough to get me there during its theatrical run. T hought of renting it on DVD though... just havent.

things I never would have thought of.

example: sloviness (sloppyness) which is a 20th century trait that they inserted into this movie so it's not really accurate in the time portrayal.

http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2005/prideandprejudice2005.html

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

ccons003's picture

First off, just on innuendoes and things in movies designed for kids and adults: when I was a kid and I saw stuff that had sexual connotations or anything like that I didn't notice, and my friends were all the same way. If you're not aware of the sexual things already, it'll just go right over your head in a movie.

And come on: statue nudity? Of all the things to be fighting in this world, they want to attack statue nudity in PG-13 movies (which, by the way, most everybody already knows frequently has sexual content, and which lists nudity and sexual content on the reasons for the rating)....How about trying to stamp out AIDS or spiritual violence or teen pregnancies or poverty (or any of about a million other major problems going on). I'm offended that people who have the ability to devote great resources to solving REAL problems are just fooling around with ridiculous garbage.

And it all just goes too far. I mean, on here it talked about a woman being charged with child pornography for having a picture of her daughter nude in the tub. Come on! Everybody has pictures like that: pictures in the tub or on the "potty" or even one of the classic "baby on a bearskin rug"-esque pictures. It's not because the parents are sexually excited by their kids' nudity; it's just cute.

And they fired a teacher for having her students read The Diary of Anne Frank. What kind of nonsense is that? That book is considered by most to be a classic and it's required reading in every school I know of, yet because of a sexual reference in the book, they got boxed up and the teacher was canned. How on earth does that make sense?

Almost all of the time they're talking about artistic or innocent nudity and then describing it as hard porn. And if you think about it, it's not kids having problems with the nudity; it's adults who are probably more "perverted" themselves than they'd like to admit.

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"Our lives begin to end when we become silent about things that matter."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Live one day at a time, emphasizing ethics rather than rules."
-Wayne Dyer

I never heard of it.

***The thing is, if you control the Senate meetings, you control the gavel. And the gavel is a very important instrument... an instrument of power. An instrument that establishes the agenda.
Dan Quayle former Republican VP of George Bush Sr***

ccons003's picture

If you click the link from the first post and read down a bit, you'll find it.

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"Our lives begin to end when we become silent about things that matter."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Live one day at a time, emphasizing ethics rather than rules."
-Wayne Dyer

just let movie be itself

ccons003's picture

Next thing you know, they'll sue National Geographic for being pornography readily accessable to minors because a lot of the tribal Africans in their magazines happen to be naked....

How low will they go?

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"Our lives begin to end when we become silent about things that matter."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Live one day at a time, emphasizing ethics rather than rules."
-Wayne Dyer

about anatomy from National Geographic.

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