Party Lines

engkatiemarie's picture

In this day and age, we can’t afford to allow two distinctly separate political parties dictate our decisions for us. Life isn’t black and white; there is a grey area in between. A beautiful grey area, which we need to take the time to appreciate and ponder more often, because otherwise we are cheating ourselves out of understanding the true nature of reality.

I am the first to admit a tendency to see one way or the other; but on the other hand sometimes I run into disagreements with other ProU users based merely on my own lack of ability to communicate. This is the case yesterday, over a particular blog posted that was very clearly oriented along party lines.

To summarize, the blog was about an incident wherein a 12-year-old recipient of benefits from the SCHIP program gave a radio address concerning the program, and in retaliation various political groups attacked the child and his family. Clearly, the entire situation was regrettable. In my opinion, the child should not have been used as a political weapon in the first place, to gain “compassion” support for the program. However, the actions of the groups who attacked his family and his rights to receive these benefits, in order to further their own agendas, were absolutely deplorable. Two wrongs do not make a right, and neither position has won bonus points with me here.

In the argument I had with the other ProU user (who was not the original poster) I did not clearly express myself. It’s not just about what you are saying, but how you say it, when trying to get a point across, and I clearly did not do this well. This led to an embarrassing and frustrating confrontation, which extended into another blog on another topic. The point I was trying to make was that it’s easy to come up with individual examples, taken out of context or not, to prove a point on either side of a discussion, and that’s why examples are just that: examples. They can provide support and guidance, but they really don’t prove or justify anything.

When I look at an issue, I never consider what the “Republican” or “Democrat” viewpoint would be, and then choose a side. My choices are made by careful consideration backed by logic and research, hopefully from accurate sources. When I’m wrong in using a particular logic or fact, and somebody proves it; I’ll admit it. The fun part about politics is nobody can be really “right” or “wrong” about an issue, because every problem has multiple solutions that each has its individual advantages and disadvantages.

I challenge each and every one of you to step out of the mindset that yourself or others are thinking like a “Republican” or a “Democrat” and instead just consider the issues we discuss here with a clear mind, without predispositions or biases. It’s much harder than it sounds, isn’t it?

If we each make this effort, and think with our hearts and our minds regardless of our affiliation or our upbringing, it will make the world a better place for everyone.

Fr33 2 b's picture

I have to say that I concur about the division of mindsets regarding politics. One of my first impressions regarding what politics was about was juxtaposing the concept of Republicans vs. Democrats with what Lincoln said in his Gettysburg address that "a house divided can not stand". Decades later, I still see no good reason for it.

A particular note of interest is proof of actual differences in brain ontologies between liberals and conservatives is in the Scientific American article: Are We Predisposed to Political Beliefs?. But that like everything else could be construed as biased and the reputability of Scientific American could be disputed (like everything else.)

Just a final thing about "a house divided". I apologize for the fact that this is cynical, which is an appriach which is required in politics (sorry if it's not so fun) but systems which work against "We the people" have been put in place in the interest of people in power since forever. Basically "We the people" just get stuck with whatever system gets put in place and have to work it. "We the people" in my opinion will do best to leave self serving people who seek power off to one side and choose the lesser of two evils.

Restoring Faith In Humanity One Acquaintance At A Time

engkatiemarie's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

Thanks for the comment. I'd like to read that article, but the link doesn't work; can you repost it? (That happens often, we're not quite sure why.)

As for "We the People", I agree with your thought process. For example, those who want to be President should automatically get disqualified for the job.

My preference is to somehow move to a three-party system (where all three actually have equal power). In my opinion, the division of power between only two parties makes this country open to political animosity, drawing our attention away from the actual actions of those at the top, resulting in nothing getting accomplished in a timely manner.

Fr33 2 b's picture

Here you go, sorry I should take more care in previewing

Are We Predisposed to Political Beliefs?

Love your over the top sarcasm of "As for "We the People", I agree with your thought process. For example, those who want to be President should automatically get disqualified for the job." I get the jibe though. It should definitely be a matter of conviction(s?)

Restoring Faith In Humanity One Acquaintance At A Time

Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

It isn't about Republican/Democrat, but it is about Right/Wrong.

Believe it or not, there is a right and wrong... (I know you do, as I can tell from the conversations you and I have had)... and disagreeing with right for the sake of appearing open-minded and intellectual makes one rather dumb.

I am a conservative. I have reasoned out conservative ideals to be more beneficial to our country and the people of our country than the liberal side of the equation, as it stresses personal freedom and Independence... necessary for the future.

People CAN disagree and feel that liberal ideals are better (but they're in for a heck of a fight. heh.). . . but to disagree to appear intellectual is the worst kind of stupidity... it is willfull.

Part of our current problem, as your note, is that people on the Republican and democrat parties believe what they believe without thinking about it. The whole "Anyone but Bush" is just as stupid as the new "Anyone but Hillary" movement (though as a conservative I agree with the "Anyone but Hillary" a bit more)

truelife90's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

I understand you. Especially when people twist your words into something else, it becomes quite frustrating. Children should NOT be used in political issues at all if parents are only going to feed him words to say without the kids having full understanding of the topic. Sometimes I feel like people need me to label myself in certain way so they can further stereotype me. They only know 10% of the subject and assume they know the whole truth. It is hard to find a reliable proof too though. Sources are often bias. You can only gather so much information to prove your point of the argument.

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