WHAT THE FREAK?
Pardon my response at the Newsweek Headline that makes is seem like Pakistan is in a worse condition or atmosphere than Iraq and poses “threat” to the World.
First of all, I would like to say, I read Newsweek. It’s something that I have, until now, taken as a good source for trustworthy news…BUT the sensational headline that Pakistan is a dangerous NATION has gotten me all confused and puzzled.
Upon reading further I understand what they actually mean by that headline…Still though, They screwed up royally. They make it seem like Pakistan is over-run by Islamist ideals, that insurgents are breeding in every street and that Pakistani people might actually support these supposed Islamists or some other BULL.
Let me clarify for those who haven’t read the article…what happened is that after the bomb blasts aimed at Bhutto’s welcome home procession, somehow, Newsweek reporters feel the need to inform people in the US how scared they should be of Pakistan and the “Jihad” that they think is alive and kicking in Pakistan.
More like tell the truth WHY DON’T YOU, Newsweek? instead of making Pakistan seem like a country in desperate conditions--which it is, but only because of politics.
The US did not finish the job of de-stabilizing and ending Taliban power, instead they decreased it. Afghani insurgents have never been completely crushed so that they couldn’t regain power again. That is the Historical fact. Those people can not be broken down, they always have the spirit to restart and regain all that they have lost. I mean they have practiced and probably become perfect at starting over from nothing, considering Afghanistan’s history with invasions and efforts to control the country from foreigners that have been UNSUCCESSFUL.
Now, Taliban supporters (the one with the money) have created a strong hold in Pakistan and are funding their wars to re-gain control again and not only that, we have a ton of people who just want our government to not be controlled by the US.
I mean, why should the US demand Pakistan to do its bidding? It’s not an unreasonable thought…What more should Pakistan do? The Taliban and “jihadist” are elements that are remnants of the wars that have gone on for over 10 years in Afghanistan. They come into Pakistan as refugees--we have huge refugee camps with over 100, 000 people-- and then they find a place to gather supporters so that they can carry out their operations.
Taking them out is not a simple task. Newsweek tells that about 1000 Pakistani troops have been lost due to fighting against insurgents. And infiltrating their networks is not easy when Pakistan has a lot other stuff to deal with.
I have explained in other blogs that Pakistani peoples (the poor youth mostly) anti-American sentiment is complicated, and not something that should be taken as a threat. The people in power know that Pakistan has to remain in good will of the US and the US itself supports the military/general dictator Musharraf, therefore I beg to differ with Newsweek, Pakistan is NOT the Most dangerous NATION.
MY take on it from a Pakistani citizen’s perspective is: Basically, the people of Pakistan didn’t really feel that Pakistani army should wage war and find out these people for the US BUT if those same Islamist people start abusing and harming the people of Pakistan then something will be done. More people are becoming aware of what is going by foreigners in our country and this will lead to anger and resentment which will be directed toward these foreigners and those that help them.
People in Pakistan do not want these bomb blasts to happen, they are people who want to live in peace too. I am reminded of the song, NO MORE DRAMA.
The threat supposedly is due to the fact that Pakistan has “political instability, a trusted network of radical Islamists, an abundance of angry young anti-Western recruits, secluded training areas, access to state-of-the-art electronic technology, regular air service to the West and security services that don't always do what they're supposed to do.”
THIS IS MY RANT…WHAT THE HELL?
LOOKING from the outside you can think of Pakistan being in the worse condition BUT we know our history. We have been in this sort of predicament Political instability) many times and have overcome it. Our youth have secular non religious reasons for their hate agaisnt the West (I have tried to explain many times). Our secluded areas are not welcome to outsiders, trying to enter those areas is a DEATH WISH, it is like another country (I say give those tribes their independence). Our technology is state of the art? News to me, We DO have TRUSTWORTHY security forces. How can you stain our forces by saying that, We’ve never had any kind of threat go straight from Pakistan to the US or other western Nation.
WHAT does need to change is that the US needs to stop giving out statements against Pakistan. It ignites hate in the people. DO NOT THINK SO BADLY OF THE PEOPLE AND THE NATION.
Anyone who doesn’t know squat about Pakistan, from reading the article, they would conjure up images of Pakistan being in a state akin to Iraq or Afghanistan or even Iran and Saudi Arabia.
UM…NOOOO…Pakistan is not in such a religiously painted mind set, people are decidedly moderate or centrist on a lot of things.
What people don’t understand is that a large segment of the population does not involve itself in these political matters of demonstrations and anti-West hate, they DO VOTE-- but they do not come out for any protests or mass marches. Those that you see on TV that are anti-US are people that have nothing else to do and sometimes, they are paid to come to these places by religious right extremists. At other times they do these things because they contend that the West needs to stay out of the country’s political matters.
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Yes, I saw that headline on the magazine stand too. I didn't read the article though because it sounded too weird to catch my attention. I was waiting for someone to write about this. lol If you didn't, I would've gone back to barns and nobles and bought the magazine. I am not sure what the writer is trying to get by coming up with such headline and story. Perhaps Newsweek want to convert our attention from Iraq to Pakistan. Are they suggesting that we should go to war with the Pakistan? Arghh, I just want PEACE. No wars and bombs.
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I feel it's a mission to see how many Muslim countries we can call threat to the people of the world...lol, NO i'm joking but It did PISS ME OFF that they are saying this, I mean a minute ago, they were supporting Pakistan's current military ruler (newsweek too) and saying he does have control and is capable of keeping the powers in Pakistan, in check and now they are Comparing PAKISTAN with IRAQ???
I REALLY THINK THEY NEED TO RE-EVALUATE OR RETHINK THAT HEADLINE
it really bugs me that a country in midst of a war ir being compared to a country that hasn't been in war in the last 30 something years and ANOTHER POINT iPakistan is ONLY 60 years old ---What do you expect? us to be stable and booming in a coutry that has a lot of political tension and turmoil and problems with its neighbor, India.
We need to work on a lot of things, and it's not like we want those terror supporters or Taliban supporters in Pakistan, WE DO NOT support them..the majority of people want peace and NO bombs or shootings.
People need to really learn about the history of places to educate themselves and make reasonable, sensible judgments--- even the reporters of Newsweek come off as ignorant...I mean they write this sort of stuff that really doesn't do much except for scaring people and making them fear Pakistan...Seriously, Pakistan's been through some really tough times and pulled out of them.
"I leave my one and only grain of spiritual sand
to universal scales of humanity, all humanity...
forever is finding a solution to a solution." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
Lol... nice rant.
Newsweek is one of the worst "new sources" out there. It's a sensationalist magazine that pretty much feeds people whatever they want to hear.
A couple of months ago they printed an article that basically called all "global warming deniers" idiots, which is ridiculous, as I've written about many times before. Now they are picking on Pakistan for their amusement. Newsweek is a bunch of moron journalists (not that all journalists are morons; just this particular group) that simply takes whatever is spoon-fed to them by various sources and polls and regurgitates it back out, without ever taking the time to question or challenge it.
write so that they can make money, come on, i think everyone in the business does that -- but the group aren't morons as a whole but I admit, they also make mistakes
After all, at the end, it is about how much you've sold but I read them, although i am about to change my subscription and get the Economist
(Newsweek is better than Time, at least)
There is one journalist, I consistently like to read, who writes for Newsweek ...
he writes stuff regardless of taking sides--- His name is Fareed Zakaria, he is an Indian Immigrant., extremely intelligent and objective--- basically, he writes about South Asia, China and Middle East.. I love his article for this week, it is about Iran, you should read it..
"I leave my one and only grain of spiritual sand
to universal scales of humanity, all humanity...
forever is finding a solution to a solution." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
I will definitely check him out.
My personal news choice is always the Wall Street Journal (I have an online subscription). I also like space.com (yes, I'm a space dork). Discover magazine is good as well. I tend to stay away from Newsweek-like political magazines because they are almost always just plain ridiculous and contradictory.
about politics, they have a good movie critic, they write about social issues and travel, one page for entertainment gossip, which I always laugh at while reading
they are not that bad...as some of their articles make them seem--
I think you've been hurt by that cover article that said "Global Warming is a hoax, or so say well funded naysayers who still reject the overwhleming evidence of climate change...INside the denial machine" (am I right?)
ah I am going to stick to the Economist and the nytimes ( i read the nytimes every day)
"I leave my one and only grain of spiritual sand
to universal scales of humanity, all humanity...
forever is finding a solution to a solution." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
Nah... I've always hated Newsweek, because in my opinion they have always printed crap. Just like Time and the New York Times (which is the most biased newspaper in this country).
The only objective newspaper in America is the Wall Street Journal. I like Discover for my science news because they've got some neat articles. I don't know much about the Economist; never read it much myself... maybe I will have to start reading it.
there isn't a way that a newspaper can be decidedly objective-
I mean that should be their aim but it's impossible,
I think nytimes at least tells what's happening around the world,
I don't take their opinion pieces as my opinions but I learn about the current events of the week so at least I am informed....
I stick to Scientific America for science news...My ucle bought me a subscription and it comes in handy in my science courses
ON the Wall street journal--- I know people read that a ton, but even the name itself is rubbing me the wrong way(j/k) BUT if the Wall street journal was available at my college for free, I would read it
"I leave my one and only grain of spiritual sand
to universal scales of humanity, all humanity...
forever is finding a solution to a solution." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
America is the most dangerous nation in the world.
Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth!~JFK
I don't know about America being the most dangerous...
BUT I thought of the words that the grand father says to Tobey Mcguire in spiderman which say:
With power comes great responsibility or something like that
and I would say, US has enormous power and influence but have we used that responsibly?????
"I leave my one and only grain of spiritual sand
to universal scales of humanity, all humanity...
forever is finding a solution to a solution." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/231615-this-is-a-muslim-girls-plight
for simple reason that we have more power and resources than we need. At the flick of a finger global annihilation can happen or with a nod of a head the global economy could shift or one swish of a pen could annihilate the UN. One country with that much power is dangerous. We use that power to scare other countires or force them to do our will.
That spells danger.
Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth!~JFK
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility - I welcome it.
John F. Kennedy
WOW!!! I read your first quote and i thought it was deep, but when i read the second one i had to wait 10 minutes so as to recover and then reply. They are awesome. And newsweek by the way is a liberal source of news, so i don't trust them.
WOW!!! I read your first quote and i thought it was deep, but when i read the second one i had to wait 10 minutes so as to recover and then reply. They are awesome. And newsweek by the way is a liberal source of news, so i don't trust them.
if people don't look at the context and forget to apply them correctly. I'm all for using the power we have to defend in cases of maximum danger, BUT that's not what has happened and in the past the routes taken weren't necessarily the best one by the powers so forgive my skepticism and lack of trust in just words said by people of some power and inlfuence--
this power given to us also has to be applied and used properly in the right manner for the right causes and military action should be saved for last.
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
It is an unfortunate fact that we can secure peace only by preparing for war.
John F. Kennedy
nicely said things but not ones that apply to what I am talking about on Pakistan...
or are you just giving random things that talk about responsibility that US somehow feels of defending "freedom" and "democracy" around the world
Clarfiy what you're trying to say :)
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
Excellent point. Several others are more dangerous than Pak.
I think that the article is based on where radical elements have the best chance of securing nuclear weapons.
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much."
Oscar Wilde
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I have read your headlines, I was interested abuot what you wrote, but I don't like it. I dont want to express why I don't like it reason and etc. Maybe you will say that it is not my important tot you, but i think to say about bad sides always easy. Have you ever tried to say nessessary things to do with this problems?!!!
I don't mean to come off as looking at the bad sides-
Newsweek is what I am commenting on That is the headline given by them,
they called Pakistan more dangerous than Iraq... and made it seem like the country is getting run by Islamic Taliban infidels and fighters whereas I tried to explain that Newsweek has skewed and missed the larger picture of trying to understand that Pakistan DOES NOT support or want these foreign elements in the country...they have come and taken control in CERTAIN areas, NOT the cities or urban centers, they are only in couple of northern border town and areas...
If you read ALL of this blog, near the end I DO TALK ABOUT solution, Pakistan has to resolve this conflict and right now they are going about it wrong
I don't know if you keep up with this news BUT I am from Pakistan so I am biased because I watch Pakistani private news and read american news papers too.
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
"People in Pakistan do not want these bomb blasts to happen"
I don't think the people want them anywhere.
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The assertion seems fairly reasonable for these reasons.
1-Current government is extremely unpopular.
2-Democratic institutions keep present govt. from totalitarian control.
3-Sizeable well armed militias that are sympathetic to Jihadist views.
4-Nuclear weapons.
5-tremenduous intelectual capital compared to equally unstable nations.
6-Items 1 & 2 make a coup very possible.
7-Bin Laden himself could hold power after a coup.
Seven is a little far fetched, but his approval rating was about 45% at last count. A violent revolution rarely if ever delivers power into the hands of the majority. Such a revolution could happen at any time.
If a successful Islamist led revolution starts, or appears likely it would be no surprise for US forces to attack to take control of the known warheads. That would further weaken the Pakistan military. This is a scary situation.
There are many more unstable countries, and several more powerful. It is the combination that is most dangerous here.
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much."
Oscar Wilde
If this were Iran instead of nuclear Pakistan, would you be singing the same tune? If the media were constantly reporting about Iran and Newsweek did all this information, fear mongering the United States into a war with Iran, would you run a rant about how that is false and inaccurate? I am sure you call out the bias in the media leading up to the invasion of Iraq? Why do you respect Pakistan so much? What about bill Kristal, war hawk on fox that is advocating war with Pakistan?
I am not trying to demean you, I am just curious if you advocate for war with Iran if Newsweek had declare that Iran is the most dangerous nation on earth? Could it be that Pakistan isn't a threat because they had nuclear weapon and don't sit on top of a Hugh oil reserve? Anyways, do you support war with Iran because bush-Cheney said that they were a threat to the United States? Lets not forget that Iran sit on top of a Hugh oil reserve and could benefit that oil industries.
I know more about the situation.
Let me say it right now, I was very much against the war with Iraq... If the US tries to wage war with Iran, it would be the MOST STUPIDEST thing to do, even more stupider than Iraq----I THINK that it is Ironic that the West especially US tries to tell which countries can and can not have nuclear power/reactors and Iran has many times said that it only wants the nuclear energy reactors.
I am okay with these questions but you phrased them as if I am only loyal to Pakistan, not ture. I just don't speak up that much about Iran on this site because there are some people here who don't understand the dynamics of MOST Muslim countries, the government and population and their sentiments. I have been trying to tell people that you can't hope to understand us by reading AMerican papers, read historical facts and evidence that is Trustworthy and then come at me.
I DON"t respect Pakistani GOVERNMENT just Like I have very little faith in the current US government...AS i Said I know more about what we call the Awam in Pakistan, that's the general Public and their sentiments, they do not want to have Pakistan go to war or have a radical islamst government in control, everyone, get that straight.
I have to add more here but I am side tracked. Will come later and explain further.
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
I don't agree with Newsweek that Pakistan is the most dangerous country in the world either, but I do think that you're not admitting that Pakistan does have many problems. Pakistan has not been at war with another nation in years, but I would say that they are at war right now, judging from what you say in your blog, even. Local tribesmen kill foreigners, foreign terrorists (and domestic ones, too) making attacks, the Pakistani army waging "war" against terrorists; I'd say that qualifies as war.
I also think that the mindset that "we don't want to do anything about these killers because the U.S. wants us to. However, we will do it if it doesn't affect the U.S. positively" is just stupid! Obviously, these terrorists are attacking and recruiting Pakistanis as well as attacking the U.S. I call that self-destruction, even if it is only a sentiment.
P.S. You never seem to use any supporting facts in your blogs; would you mind displaying some statistics?
P.S.S. I noticed that you use "us", "our", and "we" of both the U.S. and Pakistan. Which one do you owe loyalty to, the U.S., or Pakistan, because it can't be both.
I did not deny that Pakistan has many problems, I admitted and contended that we need to effectively and efficiently solve this problem in our NORTHERN tribal areas where foreigners are coming in through and planning attacks that they take out later in our cities with the help of people who were in those tribal areas of north, Yes I did talk about that.
Secondly, there is a reason why certain sentiments form in the Muslim world against the West, that we (pakistanis) want to not do anything that helps US is my wrongly explaining the feeling, we HAVE continually tried to use the intelligence to find out these people BUT the sentiment and feeling of bitterness originates because US uses us and then turns around and ignores us or condemns us by giving out ridiculous statements (this time my finger is at the government) .
The general population wants something to be done about these terrorists BUT they also are angered by the fact that the US continuosly makes it seem as if Pakistanis at large are involved in helping these elements. NO, they are not...
There is only a small minority in certain areas taking part in these things,
and THE Paki army has tried to fight them and eliminate them in the past five years many times but every time something happens to tip the balance and starts these bombings and things all over again.
PS. You should specify what kind of statistics you want from me, there aren't any way to get numbers of how many people are terrorists or people who would support them, there are estimates around---I mean what numbers should I give you?
Facts? You want links for sources where I am getting my information? is that it?
If so, I will do that although what I say is mostly from the many pakistani news programs and talk shows that I watch everyday on Geo Tv and from what I read in our news papers.
Why can't I be loyal to both? Is my being loyal to both, illegal.?. I don't plan or wish any harm to any nation. only those who are in the wrong (usually people of power)
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion..
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
You Say:
"The general population wants something to be done about these terrorists BUT they also are angered by the fact that the US continuosly makes it seem as if Pakistanis at large are involved in helping these elements. NO, they are not...
There is only a small minority in certain areas taking part in these things,"
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/11/poll.pakistanis/
"According to poll results, bin Laden has a 46 percent approval rating."
"nearly three-fourths of poll respondents said they oppose U.S. military action against al Qaeda and the Taliban inside Pakistan,"
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I think you WANT to believe what you say. That is not very strong evidence, unless you have a source other than wishfull thinking.
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much."
Oscar Wilde
AlQaeda or Taliban--I laugh at the fact that people did not already know that Osama has such favorable opinion in Muslim world most people understand at one level that what he and his organization has done is wrong But at another level the rhetoric that he says against the Western and American policies around the world is almost always on point....
He asks for the American presence to be out of SAudi Arabia, he reminds the US has continuosly support ed Israel and are NOT trying to hlep or resolve the issue so that Palestinians are also satisfied, Iraq war and so many things---- what he says, People listen because US itself provided fuel to ignite the flame.
Therefore.....Actually, the sentiment of support for Bin LAden is a result of American policies and you should try to understand how policies, images and attitudes come off to peeople in the Muslim world and have led to such bitterness and resentment against the US government...even that CNN article discusses why there is such unfavorable opinion of the US.
Generally people want to take these polls and statements or demonstrations at face value and not look at the context of how people come to hold such opinions. LOOk around the world and tell me that Muslims should be content with what US has been trying to directly and undirectly do in other Muslim nations, I mean US relies so much on the MId east BUT it wants to keep them under its own command, yes, I think they have the upper hand right now in many nations of the Middle East and when they see someone trying to get ahead or build somthing for its own country's development such as Iran, all this rhetoric of war and fear, against Iran, erupts?
I think YOU DON'T want to BELIEVE that the Pakistani population has some kind of viable reasons to be so anti American govt, anti American policies...
I would also say that this poll was on August 24-28, I think the situation with the numerous bombings in last two months has turned the public's sentiment against the Taliban elements because those are in conjunction with home-grown terrorists that are taking out attacks against Pakistanis forces and civilians too and this all happened in the last two months.
Another thing, I hate it when People only highlight the uglyness or forget to show the good of others, I do it sometimes but I do try to give credit where it is due.....
I am SURE you read this part of the article too,
"Seventy-five percent of poll respondents said suicide bombings are rarely or never justified. " see how complicated it is to understand people and their opinions and the dichotomy, contradictions, ironies in the world...
AND.....This is what I meant by American govt on one hand using Pakistan or demanding us to do certain things BUT then forgetting about us or demeaning Pakistan by treating it as some friend only when US needs them but not helping out in other issues....
"And a majority of Pakistanis said their opinion of the United States would improve if, among other things, there were increases in American aid to Pakistan, American business investments and the number of visas issued for Pakistanis to work in the United States."
But what.... I am extremely/emotionally/psychologically drained and depressed,
I fear what is going on Pakistan has become a sitaution that won't resolve itself without some kind of extreme measure taken by Pakistani govt/judicial system or by the local governments to take control and keep public safe and in check
...well, I just have to pray that people remain safe and someone comes up with a solution..
I think right now all that is happening is a result of the Political ineffectiveness and injustice and instability that has been plaguing Pakistan.
People are fed up with the governemnt and Musharraf and.....I think change comes but its so tough, the whole SYStem is corrupt and overhauling/replacing/fixing all these greivances and elements of concerns that have been destrying the faith of people in the govt and its officials for the past 6-7 years in Pakistan (I am not talking about anyything else except for things insdie the country, you would not know them if you haven't been watching the sitaution with Musharraf since 1999).
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
"I am SURE you read this part of the article too,
"Seventy-five percent of poll respondents said suicide bombings are rarely or never justified. " see how complicated it is to understand people and their opinions and the dichotomy, contradictions, ironies in the world..."
I read this and I am appalled that 25% of those polled SUPPORT suicide bombings.
An aditional 21% or more just approve of the man that is the head of the organization that does those bombings. I suppose that "are rarely justified" means only against Americans to those people.
If public opinion in America was anything like this we would have already started bombing Pakistani cities.
As a Christian it is forbidden for me to be hopeless, but I can't see how this is going to be resolved peacefully.
"...well, I just have to pray that people remain safe and someone comes up with a solution.."
I'll pray with you.
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much."
Oscar Wilde
you don't need to have America bomb our cities, Musharraf has acutally ensured that our country will be destroyed effectively, bombed and wrecked because of what he did today,
and if american governmnet feels tthe need to bomb the 25 percent who are actually allowed to hold whatever opinions they want (*because opinions doesn't equal ACTUALLY supporting physically these organizations)
WEll welcome, come and kill...get the blood of more innocent people on American hands.
anyways, as a Pakistani and a human, I am hopeless and actually helpless
Violence wil now rule in Pakistan, go and read what happened today in Pakistan...Musharraf has effectively taken off all the Supreme court judges off their seats and hand picked people who ONLY SUPPORT HIM.,
I am speechless....lets not talk about anything, I am probably not going to blog unless I get some motviation to get out of my depressed mood and that's only if i see some good news about pakistan, right now, I am praying for my familys and friends safety and hope for PAkistan's people to protest against everything going on.
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...
The act of becoming a real dictator was coming for a while. The US probably takes no real action for or against this move. The islamic fundamentalist reaction, and the support of the military are the things to watch.
If the rebellion starts the US is very likely to move in to secure the nukes. That makes any rebellion more likely to remove him.
Do not be depressed or hopeless. There is always tomorrow, and if 'one door is closed many more are open.'
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much."
Oscar Wilde
is happening in Pakistan is at large because of the Taliban and Al Qaeda forces that had now become not as much important to the US because we've been side tracked by the Iraq war, these places and groups should still be highlighted as there is a resurgence of Taliban and AlQaeda proponents.
Its these specific groups who are now gaining advantage by locating themselves and hiding out in areas where it REALLY hard to send armies or people to fight and eliminate them.
A lot of people are foreigners who have after the war in Afghanistan in 2001, came to Pakistan's Northern tribal Mountainous areas-- and it made it their homes and they formed partnerships and allies with those living there who were already radical extremists aganist moderate governments and especially the US...and all have in essence been training to wage war through sucides or bombings against anyone and everyone who supports US and Us policies. This problem has been largely displaced from Aghanistan to the areas of isolation/tribes in North Pakistan (which is a mountainous region), and is actually trying to spread
WEll I am ALL for solving this problem but its NOT based in Pakistani cities or taking over the cities as Newsweek made it seem, the base is in the tribal regions and they DO not have support from the pakistani population, instead they are killing our civilians and innocents too.
also, nytimes cover article of Tuesday October 30th, 2007 do read http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/world/asia/30afghan.html?pagewanted=2&...
"I'm more like a fool for soul and passion....
I watch crash, and realize that we all survivors
no religion or race, whatever describe us." -Forever Begins, Common
http://www.progressiveu.org/012450-old-and-gold-times-change-my-immigran...