Catholism = Hypocracy [Part 1]

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Disclaimer: This probably will offend most people. I would apologize but I am not sorry. Feel free to argue with me. It would be nice.

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I guess I fail to see the glamor of the Catholic Church. Many of it's laws contradict what the Church as a whole supports and does. It may be because I was disillusioned with the Catholic Church only two years ago but I did my research before I completely turned my back on the Church. Let me break it down for you.

War

The fifth commandment of the Christianity is: "THOU SHALT NOT KILL." Seems easy enough to follow. Right? Sadly enough, this is not true. No I'm not talking about individual killing. I'm speaking of global wars, religious wars, and any war that the Catholic Church agrees with.

Pulled directly from the Vatican website:

Avoiding war

The fifth commandment forbids the intentional destruction of human life. Because of the evils and injustices that accompany all war, the Church insistently urges everyone to prayer and to action so that the divine Goodness may free us from the ancient bondage of war.104

All citizens and all governments are obliged to work for the avoidance of war.

However, "as long as the danger of war persists and there is no international authority with the necessary competence and power, governments cannot be denied the right of lawful self-defense, once all peace efforts have failed."

The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:

- the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;

- all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;

- there must be serious prospects of success;

- the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.

Every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast areas with their inhabitants is a crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation."109 A danger of modern warfare is that it provides the opportunity to those who possess modern scientific weapons especially atomic, biological, or chemical weapons - to commit such crimes."

Reading this, it would seem that the Catholic Church has a fairly good idea on war. War = Bad, so to speak. But still their actions and words contradict what they have written.

The Crusades
Wikipedia Link

"Crusades were fought against Muslims, pagan Slavs, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, and political enemies of the popes."

The original goal of the Crusades was to recapture Jerusalem from the Muslims but they were soon diverted to other goals.

The Crusades had far-reaching political, economic, and social impacts, some of which have lasted into contemporary times. Because of internal conflicts among Christian kingdoms and political powers, some of the crusade expeditions were diverted from their original aim, such as the Fourth Crusade, which resulted in the sack of Christian Constantinople and the partition of the Byzantine Empire between Venice and the Crusaders. The Sixth Crusade was the first crusade to set sail without the official blessing of the Pope, establishing the precedent that rulers other than the Pope could initiate a crusade.

But the history of the Crusades is obscured and made to look like a grand series of wars. But the Vatican website and other major websites fail to acknowledge what truly happened during the Crusades.

During the Fourth Crusade and the sacking of the Christian Constantinople, the Roman Catholic Crusaders sacked the Cathedrals and Greek Catholic churches. They dragged the nuns out by their hair and raped and murdered them in the streets.

Sure if you're looking at the Ten Commandments rape is not mentioned, but supposedly God said, "Don't kill."

The Church fails to explain why they allowed this, nor did they even say that they started the Crusades.

to be continued...

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The fourth crusade was organized by a Venetian merchant, as I recall. And, it isn't like Catholicism is the only religion on the planet to preach peace, but support or engage in war.

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Actually, the 6th Crusade was the only one not initiated by the Catholic Church. It was started by Emperor Frederick II who was then excommunicated for it. The 4th Crusade was initiated in 1202 by Pope Innocent III, with the intention of invading the Holy Land through Egypt.

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True. I misspoke. However, it was not intended to attack Constantinople. It did so because the Venetians paid for it, but were not repaid and their economy was kind of crippled, so they sacked Constantinople (and a few other cities).

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Interesting blog, very thought out and I agree with Leslie, welcome to the world of Catholic oxymorons.

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complityly agree witth you
but you made a small mistake there is no Greek Chatolic church never was, it's Greek Orthodox

The fifth commandment of the Christianity is: "THOU SHALT NOT KILL."

Actually its translation is "thou shalt not murder".

The most ancient and (still) valid cause for killing is self defense.

Just think of justifiable war as self defense writ large.

Likewise the crusades that are commonly understood by historians to be a reaction to Muslim conquest and incursions into traditionally Christian lands.

I was always told that the 5th commandment was translated to Kill. Thus I took it as such.

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Well you were (like at lot of people) poorly catechized.

Before you can dissociate yourself with Catholicism you need to be associated with it. Unfortunately young people are not taught what the Church actually teaches. They are given a superficial, cursory Christianity.

Its up to you to make a good faith effort to try and understand the complexity and nuance of what Christ actually taught & how it has been historically understood.

It’s a hell of a project but ultimately very rewarding.

At one point I was a devote Catholic and I believed in Christ and what he taught. I attended youth groups, Sunday-school, mass every Sunday and day of obligation. I loved what was taught and I believed that I could be happy living a life devoted to God. But people are disillusioned out of everything all the time. And that was just my time. You can say that God willed it, because he supposedly gave people free will.

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i would agree that the catholic church has many flaws. but in nature it is good. we just screw it up sometimes. As far as the kill vs. murder thing it is murder. and the just war theory teaches basically that war is only justifiable if all other means have been used and the people are in danger if they do not fight. we cant ask people to sit there and be killed because its what god would want... we have to set a limit on when its okay to fight back.. thats what the just war theory does.
as far as the crusades go. i agree that they were awful and a big mistake... i think everyone does.. but they were a very long time ago and the major problem was that the church allowed itself to be ruled by politics. that always leads to problems.
like i said i agree that the catholic church is far from perfect, but so is every religion... and catholosim isnt as bad as alot of people make it out to be... it has good intentions

I personally don't like any form of organized religion. And as for good intentions...
intentions are one thing, doing one thing and saying the opposite is another.

And sure the Crusades were ancient but some Catholics just try to push it under rug and claim it was a good cause. They aren't taught in religious education and I think that by telling kids that early on it would make people want to remain Catholic, or Christian, or whatever.

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