Is Hamas really a terrorist group? Israel and the US say so, but why?
Why has Hamas killed over 250 Isrealis in suicide bombings this year? I guess because I am a rational person I find it hard to belive that a political/cultural group would just kill hundreds of Israelis without some sort of legitimate reason. Also, why does the US care enough to classify Hamas as a terrorist group?
First, I would like to dive into the history of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Following the end of World War II, the United Nations, headed by the US, relocated millions of Jews back to their "motherland" of Israel. Considering the Jews had just survived the Halocaust, it makes sense. However there were people living on the land that was given back to the Jews. Before the end of WWII, there was technically no such country as Israel. It was all Palestine. The land was taken over centuries before by the Palestinians. Moving on, Hamas was accually not formed until the late 80's. Though not the only reason, one major reason was to provide community activism and religious relief to those Palestinian civilians who had been under Jewish rule since the mass relocation of Jews following WWII.
Ironically, "Israel supported and encouraged Hamas' early growth in an effort to undermine the secular Fatah movement of Yasser Arafat." This was during the 1990's. Remember the PLO, or Palestinian Liberation Organization. In the 90's they were the "terrorist group", defending their right to govern themselves. That organization has since been thwarted. Now there is only Hamas left.
In 2004, the leader of the "terrorist group" Hamas, Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, offered a 10 year truce, under the conditions that Israel would withdraw troops from occupied territories. Remember the US, along with the United Nations originally authorized and recognized the invasion. This truce was tenatively accepted. Since 2004's supposed truce, Hamas has claimed responsibility for bus station bombs, as well as rocket fire into Jewish settlements. They only plan to stop once the Israeli military stops their "targeted assasinations" of top Hamas officials.
All this said, I feel as though a "terrorist group" is a group that comes into previously occupied land to cause terror. Although I do not support suicide bombings, I feel as though Hamas must be dealt with like any other sovergn group. By labeling them "terrorists" we first miss out on the chance for positive dialogue as well as we forget the fact that they occupied the lands they're fighting for before the Jews did. So, who's really the terrorist??
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What you say about Israel is very true. Even to this day more of the Palestinian land are being taken away along with their rights. The United States is even funding this illegal Israel's occupation. Germany is now the largest supporter of Israel. I also have to say that the United States is the largest terrorist organization in this world. What the Israel is doing to the Palestinian is no different from what the U.S. is doing to Iraq right now if you are inform about the topic.
Watch Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land to get the true on the Israel & Palestinian. It contradict all the peace that the news been bullshitting to everyone.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565
There were more Jews in Palestine than you think. Almost half of Israel lives in Tel-Aviv. Tel-Aviv was actually just a patch of land that a group of Jews bought fair and square from a group of Muslims who lived there. Yet in addition to the desire of groups like Hamas isn't just to get their land back because they lived there, but for it to be a Muslim nation. I have sympathy for Palestinians wanting their homeland, but I have no sympathy for the desire for it to be a Muslim nation. It's not like there is any shortage of Muslim countries, and as for the temple in Jerusalem, my argument has two parts. First off, Jerusalem is Islam's third holiest city. It is the Jews first, and to a certain degree only, holy city. The second is that I feel that Muslims will have more access to their holy sites in Jerusalem under Jewish rule than Jews will under Muslim rule. But as for the question of your argument, they are a terrorist group because they kill civilians on purpose. Not even in the sense of knowingly killing civilians so they can kill combatants, but killing civilians as a tactic in itself. That is terrorism..
I would first like to say that the United States has killed more Iraqi citizens than they have lost soldiers..........
Also, to wage a war based on religious principles sounds alot like why the Muslims have declared war.
If we are to lead it needs to be by example. Though there were Jews in PALESTINE, that does not give Jews a reason to just re-establish their homeland.
and I am Christian. I also recognize that present day Israel/Palestine is holy land.
However, if Hamas is the Palestinian people that also holds a rightful stake in the lands, then how can we distinguish defender of lands from terrorists.
Why doesn't the American government come out and say,"We like the Jews more than the Muslims."
atleast they would be being honest
"my first name must be, "He aint sh@t", cause everytime I come through, yall be like "He aint sh@t"!....I'll be dat" --Redman
"Anything that can go wrong, Will go wrong"----Murphy's Law
"Last week, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she found it "hard to understand what is going to be gained by having discussions with Hamas about peace when Hamas is in fact the impediment to peace."
However, when Fmr. President Carter asked to meet with Israeli leaders he was denied. "Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, turned down Carter's requests for meetings this week."
My question is this. If Hamas wants to meet to discuss a peaceful resolution, but Israel doesn't, then who really "is in fact the impediment to peace"? and when Sec. of Stae Rice say that Hamas is "the impediment to peace", does she mean that there existance in the west bank is impeeding peace, or their actions in defense of THEIR homeland is impeeding peace.
The US is in bed with many dictators, and documented murderers. Is there only a motivation to bring "peace" to regions after they have torn them apart, or are these American blunders just a lack of foresight?
"my first name must be, "He aint sh@t", cause everytime I come through, yall be like "He aint sh@t"!....I'll be dat" --Redman
"Anything that can go wrong, Will go wrong"----Murphy's Law
Peace is never a objective of the U.S. government. All they care about is their greed for more power and money. If our government really care about peace, they wouldn't have condition for peace talk which the U.S. government alway impose. Also the imposed condition for peace talk may seem reasonable but in fact it's so broad or so demanding that almost no one can meet.
A great point. I basically was alluding to this. The United States may talk of "peace", but they really just use propaganda to push their "Impericonomical" agendas.
"my first name must be, "He aint sh@t", cause everytime I come through, yall be like "He aint sh@t"!....I'll be dat" --Redman
"Anything that can go wrong, Will go wrong"----Murphy's Law