News- Rudy Guliani, John Edwards Drop out. Guilliani anti terrorist vote to go to McCain

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Rudy Giuliani, John Edwards drop out, Romney continues attacking? At about 9:00 pm Eastern Time The associated press wire said Edwards was dropping out on January 30th 2008. Giuliani anti terrorist vote to go to McCain.

Romney continues to claim a Reagan connection. Rudy and McCain actually have a Reagan Connection. They worked for Ronald Reagan. If Mitt Romney lost his checkbook he would have been gone along time ago. McCain's attack on Romney Iraq timetable are legit...Romney said he was for a secret timetable for withdraw from Iraq.
The real Reagan connection is compassion for immigrants. McCain has made it clear that the he has compassion for immigrants but the Security of the United States of America must come first. This is a Reagan theme.
On Monday (Jan. 28th 2008) night Chuck Norris (Texas Walker Ranger)) was on Fox News; Hannity and Colmes pointing out how bad Romney has been behaving. Now arguing with Chuck Norris is not advisable Chuck Norris is a Huckabee supporter. Take note Mr. Hannity.

I have sympathy for John Edwards....He was caught in the middle of a race between a woman (with an ex- pres campaigning for her) and a popular senator who happens to be black. I do not agree with many of the Edward's positions. He did however find himself in a most unique historical Presidential Race 2008. Edwards however refused to talk with many of his conservative enemies(example the anchors on Fox News)

They have all missed an Important Ronald Reagan defect. Reagan when he was Governor of California closed down many public mental hospitals and put the patients homeless on the street. He did this exact same thing when he was elected President of the United States. I was there. I saw it on the news when it went down As a political science student I watched Reagan essentially dismantled the Soviet Union. He was a great President whom I and many others admire but he did have many defects. History has forgiven his failures. It is always best to forgive.

Forgiveness will happen. Hillary and Obama will eventually forgive each other. So will Romney and McCain. Republicans will come together. Democrats will come together.
Watch in September. Do not Miss November. It will be a striking example of the peaceable transfer of power in the most powerful nation in the World. Americans will again unite.
After that you will observe Republicans and Democrats working together at least for a time. This is my opinion.
God Bless the United States of America.

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Edwards lost his part of the primaries through his own faults. He is absolutely insane to suggest that hiking up the minimum wage to $9/hr would benefit anyone except the behemouth corporations that could afford such a minimum wage (either through their huge profits or through their overseas production). It would leave workers struggling even more than they are as they would have to compete against the inflation that would result as the economy tries to catch up with such a wage hike. It would leave the workers in dire straits. It was sickening to see the unions rallying behind him.

Guiliani also lost his share of the election through his own faults. Despite the significant IQ drop of the average American when it comes to telling a legitimate argument from rhetoric, Americans aren't that stupid. Rudy expected to win on the "I was mayor during 9/11 - terrorists are scary" ticket. He also expected to win by relying on the section of northern transplants in Florida - skip Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Michigan, Nevada, and Wyoming and try to win over the only state so far that doesn't apportion its primary delegates. Great idea Rudy.

As for Reagan, I'm really disturbed by these so-called "Republicans" who go around heralding Ronald Reagan as the hero of the party. Reagan destroyed the Republican party. He sold it out to the Christian right, turning it from the party which values the individual's sovereignty over his own life and wallet to the party which wants to control the personal lives of its populous by any means necessary, even if it means competing with the Soviets for government centralization. In addition, Reagan raised payroll taxes and spent on more and more science fiction projects while hoping that boosting big business's revenue would somehow lead to them putting more money into the economy rather than the wallets of your Senators or Representatives.

Ronald Reagan was the nation's worst president (well, maybe he's tied with FDR), and it's time that the Republican party realizes that.

Zombie Barry Goldwater '08!

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Rudy expected to win on the "I was mayor during 9/11 - terrorists are scary" ticket.

That's exactly the reason why I ran from Rudy. He was simply too close to 9/11, and it shows.

He is absolutely insane to suggest that hiking up the minimum wage to $9/hr would benefit anyone except the behemouth corporations that could afford such a minimum wage

The minimum wage is currently $5.75 (give or take a dime or two) for non-waitstaff and something like $3.95 for waitstaff. While I agree that $9 is a little much, I'd like to see anyone try to survive on a minimum-wage job (usually doesn't happen, they nearly always have to pick up a second job). It needs increased, but you are right, $9 is insane.

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$9perhour is silly
While working in Virginia, I worked across the street from where the 911 terrorists worshiped Not all Mosque goers are terrorists...but some are and terrorists worship at mosques...It is not just someone out there at the other end of the world.

I have met terrorists and have buried them.
Terrorism is real. I have talked to them and as a Funeral Director buried them.

To be polite they want to 911 our asses all over again.
My friend you are closer to 911 than you know.

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I live in one of the darker parts of a high-crime city. There are terrorists everywhere, though not all of them attend Mosques, and I think the employees at the 8+ GameStops that were held up at gunpoint by a black man can attest to the fact that not all terrorists are Middle Eastern or Muslim.

However, Rudy was at ground zero of the latest, largest attacks against this country. There is no denying that it could happen again, however, I believe it threw him into a sort of crusade that, if given the opportunity, would make Bush's actions seem trivial.

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Yes holding up any store with a gun is terrorist act.
So is gunning down students and teachers on a high school or college campus.
Islamic terrorists attack Nations and civilians on a higher scale.
A convenient store terrorist usually does not use a rocket propelled grenade or a nuclear weapon.

Yes it may be a good thing that Rudy is gone out of the Presidential Race.

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The reason that it's impossible to live on a minimum wage is because it's just that: a minimum wage. If there were no minimum wage legislation, there would still be a minimum wage, but that wage would be $0/hr. I defy you to find anyone who would work for $0/hr. Yet, somehow people are content to work for the economic equivalent of $0/hr. The minimum wage only benefits corporations which can afford to pay their workers this 'minimum wage'.

The more you raise minimum wage, the more you hurt the working class, because the entire economy shifts (in an economic model it would shift slowly, however in real life it shifts rather quickly as businesses often brace themselves for such a switch by raising prices). When the economy shifts, sure people make 'more money' (even though their purchasing power per wage remains the same), but their bank accounts are still stuck on that previous wage. Thus, they find that their purchasing power of their savings have significantly decreased.

That is why minimum wage altogether is insane.

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I just got an idea... Like you said (basically), screw minimum wage.

Instead, change the way education is done and help those who haven't (for whatever reason) obtained at least a high school diploma do so. That way, we have people that are more qualified and don't need to be content with just minimum wage, since one of the big problems is underqualification.

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We should also probably revamp education to begin teaching people how money works and how to properly invest (and how not to get screwed by credit card companies and banks).

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That too. There was actually a discussion here a while back (like a few months ago) about revamping education. I brought up an idea of changing high school curriculums to include a "Practical Applications" Math class, which would teach things like money management and other things they are most likely to encounter in the "real world" regardless of whether or not they go on to college.

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I defy you to find anyone who would work for $0/hr.

They're called volunteers, Mike. I work for nothing all the time, namely helping run this site.

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You also make $0 per hour when you start a business.

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When you start a business you are in debt and accumulate more debt as you go along. When you start a business you lose money every day. It is only around the thrid month or so when you might, might I say, break even.

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Don't most businesses stay well in debt til like, year three?

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Yes Nick it is 3 to 5 years of debt!

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Did I say month lol. Well I was thinking year in my head. Just that screw up to the computer lol.

"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference." Bill Hicks

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Bah. I wish they would make up their minds. Didn't Edwards just say not long ago that he was going to see it through until the end?

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I agree with you that it was Edwards and Rudy's own fault.
Reagan, I hated him when he was elected. He did accomplish some things however.
and I believe his errors should be forgiven.
Mrs Reagan was the worst First Lady we ever had. Let's just say there is an excellent public evidence for this. In spite of it all Reagan was not a flip flopper.

I have to disagree with you on the worse US President.
Most people don't like this....it was JFK.
He got us into Vietnam.
He is the only one who was within seconds of blowing up the planet.

What can be debated if we are gone?
And I too wish all the current candidates would make up their minds and stick to their plans.

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Unless you consider selling weapons to our Iranian enemies in order to quelch the first democratically elected government in Nicaragua an accomplishment, I can't see what Reagan accomplished.

Flip-flopping, in my eyes, is irrelevant because if you refuse to acknowledge that you're wrong, there is no virtue in sticking to your guns.

I don't really like any of the past American presidents except for maybe George Washington (debatable) and Calvin Coolidge (less debatable).

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Yes Iran Contra was a Reagan policy Failure. But it can be forgiven.

Disassembling the Soviet Union was One of the greatest achievements in history.

Now onto the Ronald RayGuns star wars stuff,
It is not mythology. It works. The friends i made in Washington DC have informed me of this and many other things I do not want to know about.

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Reagan did nothing to dissassemble the USSR. That was all the fault of Gorbachev with his policies of Glastnost and Perestroyka. These relaxations of the Soviet government (particularly, relaxation of media censorship) led to exposure of the corruption and oppression of the Soviet Empire to its own people.

Star wars was classic tax-and-spend by means of fear mongering. Same tactic used by FDR before and during WWII. Whether or not anything came out of Star Wars is irrelevent. No one is made safer by the government wielding more weapons.

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Because of Reagan Gorbachev came to believe that the Soviet Union had to be disassembled...I do not care what book or Prof. told you otherwise.
I lived through it.

The Legacy of Reagan's Star Weapons: Weapons and things beyond our imagination that keep us alive and here today.

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Gorbachev saw which way the wind was blowing from the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, the premeirship of Karoly Grosz, as well as the various fuckings-up going on within the Soviet Union (the meltdown in Chernobyl), not to mention the fact that most of the people who had founded the Soviet Union were dead, hence a wave of economic reforms coming not only from Gorbachev, but from Brezhnev and Chernenko. Remember, you weren't in the Soviet Union, you were watching it on TV (which happened to be sponsoring Reagan at the time).

There are no weapons of war that keep us alive and here today, only weapons that keep other people dead and gone tomorrow.

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Just a Political Scientist and an Historian.

Oh Yes, Weapons of Mass Destruction, specific Destruction and no destruction keep you alive.

Interesting that your degree on "How to Live in a Cardboard Box" is learning you so much, Mike.

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I switched to Philosophy/Econ. Now, it's "How to Live in an Overpriced Cardboard Box"!

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Lol. Brilliant. Laughing Out Loud

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Great Subjects! Begging
Philosophy and Economics.

They are on restinpeace's kick the bucket list.
Hope I can get to them before I go up to the "Spirit in the Sky."

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The great thing about both of those subjects is that you don't necessarily need a professor to teach them to you. All you need is a list of authors and literacy.

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Look Closer You mean you get to have one of those refrigerator boxes that have the wax-like outer surface that helps keep it dry a little longer?!

Lucky bastard.. Silly

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