"vaccines are against my Religion" .... What?

Brittany Ann's picture

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-10-18-religion-vaccines_N.htm
Oh my...

BEFORE I GET STARTED:
*There is not much we can do about a religion which doesn't allowing shots.  I respect your beliefs & I hope that your child does not get sick.
*There is not much to be done for the children who, due to already standing medical conditions, cannot get certain vaccinations.  Once again, I hope your child does not get sick & I'm sorry for your misfortune.
   
    Honestly America!  Are we now using the Religion Card to keep children from getting shots?  By the Religion Card I mean using religion as an excuse when there are really other reasons underlying an issue.  If you have problems with a certain rule in place, Please don't use false religious beliefs to get what you want.  We have government for a reason, USE IT.  It may be harder but O well!  Lets be affective Americans!  Don't use religion as a front!  Plus, I would assume that the religious community is insulted by your abusive use of their beliefs.
    Parents: What is so bad about vaccinations?  They protect your child from the other children & protect the other children from your child.  This seems like a win-win situation to me!  I do not understand the paranoia.  If there was something wrong with a vaccination, they would not continue using it on every child in America.  Those who are so scared of their child becoming deathly ill from a vaccination need to realize something: If you do not help to build your child's immune system, you are setting you & your child up for Failure.  In case this isn't common knowledge, children are little balls of viruses just waiting to infect everyone around them.  For example, teachers new to the profession tend to get sick very easily. Why?  Because they are immune systems are not prepared for all of the viruses that children carry.
          Congratulations!  You are sending your child to battle without any armor.
I have heard the theories concerning vaccinations & autism.  I'm currently doing more research, but from what I have already learned, there are not any relationships between the two at the moment.  However, I am not saying this isn't a big concern; it is definitely a huge concern.  Who knows what the future holds.
      My concern as a future parent: I don't want to surround my child with other children if those children haven't been vaccinated.  I do not think state legislatures should risk the health of hundreds of children to please those few paranoid parents.  I just hope the vaccine that my child WILL have protects him/her if the situation presents itself [a measles breakout, etc.]
     Solutions [I must warn you that all of these solutions will be sarcastic illusions]:  Put your child in a plastic bubble.  Never let your child leave the house ... ever.  Create a school for all the children who don't get vaccinated so they can spread their diseases & catch other diseases happily.  Don't ever let your child come in contact with other human beings or any other creatures.

Opinions?

 

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ResidentGeek's picture

So what is your real suggestion? Certainly not a plastic bubble. Religion is important and insisting on vaccinations is most certainly a violation of what so many people have fought to protect... Freedom.
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Brittany Ann's picture

I agree that forcing someone to get a vaccination who's religion prohibits it is a violation of freedom. I support them & their beliefs. I do not support those who are claiming religion like the example in the article!

You make a good point - we should have the freedom to do whatever we want with our bodies!

ResidentGeek's picture

Sort of. A person should be able to claim what they will with regard to religion. In regard to their body, they also have the right to choose. But that doesn't mean they have the right to choose the consequence of their actions. In regards to abortion, unless the mother's life is in danger or in the case of rape, they all ready made their choice. It's wrong to punish another to get out of the consequences of their decision. Buuuut........ That's another topic. >__<
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Brittany Ann's picture

Wow. Finally someone who can agree, or disagree, & then support their argument with an example of value! & it certaintly doesn't hurt that I like your views on abortion as well.

ResidentGeek's picture

I spend a lot of time on a physics forum where if you say anything without having something to back it up, you're asking to get pommeled... Needless to say, I've had lots of practice. In my book, if you don't have something substantial to say, it's a good sign you probably shouldn't even open your mouth.
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No vaccination Danger: People lesson to this and to this day I am angered with the dangers in that vaccination program. When my Daughter started school she was so loving and happy all the time. she would come home from school and be full of life .One day I was not told that the children would be receiving there vaccination shots. when my daughter came home she was different I asked her what was wrong and she said that we Got our needle today. From that day forth My Loving daughter was never the same. she was not as happy any more she would act out and get angered for nothing and many times I would ask her what is wrong and why are you mad ,and her answer all the time would be I don’t know . Today My daughter is going to turn 15 and thought out all of these years nothing changed whit the way she feel now you tell me did that needle have everything to do with changing my child Yes and I wish that I would of know that they were going to give the children vaccination shots because I was against from the beginning. And to go to the school and complain about this they would only find an excuse to why my daughter is acting the way she is Danger has your child changed . it did not effect my son .But I believe that girls are more at risk to these shots. Amen

Brittany Ann's picture

I don't think you can blame a shot for a young girl's unhappiness considering how many factors can contribute to a persons emotional being, especially in a young girl. If the shot administered had some mind altering affects it would affect every person who ever recieved it - not just your daughter.

BurningExample's picture
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I totally agree.

And what the hell was the school doing vaccinating your children without your permission? I sincerely and highly doubt that is the case. You have to go to a doctor or clinic to get a shot, and NO ONE is allowed to do ANY SORT of medical treatment without your permission. Especially not vaccinations.

If they gave your children shots without you knowing about it, you should sue them. But I really doubt that's what happened, or else you aren't telling us the whole story.

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mhafweet's picture

What this really does is water down the need for religious exemption in the minds of those who don't give a dang about religion... Not cool.

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i know in California children are not allowed to attend public school without some required vaccinations like smallpox, mmr, and polio for sure.

But then again, my parents just rolled their eyes when we came home dirty and covered in mud and whatever else we could get ourselves into. They called it creativity lol.

Brittany Ann's picture

Same here! I can only remember a few times my parents were spastic - I got slashed up my chest by a rusty nail on a swing set ... can you blame them? It just amazes me that American's are now afraid of medicine; especially since they probably got the shot when they were younger.

Yeah, i hear you loud and clear. I'm pretty accident prone... and the first child... so i racked their nerves quite well. Now when something happens they just ask if I think I should go to the dr. or ER or if i think i'll be ok.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

In Colorado, there's the same requirement, but you can get it waived for religious or health reasons.

Err... except smallpox. No one has to get that unless they're travelling to a high risk area, like Russia.

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Brittany Ann's picture

That's cool with me! I believe there is nothing wrong with legitimate religous or health reasons, ya know?

20melissann_smith08's picture

It's a funny thing you posted this because while I was in school I was googling some things to help me write some blogs tonight and I found that topic. I read it and I couldn't believe what parents are doing these days. It said some things about parents blaming not getting vacsination shots on religion because of the effects the shot might have or because they can't afford it, or silly reason. I think it's nuts. They make the shots for a reason and wouldn't make you get them if it was going to harm you in any way. And we do have a government to help pay for the shots and facts and stuff.

Rock On!

ResidentGeek's picture

I think that some of the "fear" of medicine comes from of the adverse effects that it DOES have on our society.
While medicine is a good thing, it has become one of the worst vices of all.
People have become used to the idea of, "One pill" cures. If something happens, people take pills and expect it to go away. It shouldn't be like this. Our bodies are so full of antibiotics that our bodies never have the opportunity to fight the disease itself. Our race is becoming dependent upon the use of Drugs to solve our problem.
It used to be that if a pacifier fell out of your child's mouth, you picked it up and stuffed it back in!
Now-a-days, there's such a fear of disease, that it is actually helping disease to gain a foothold in our immune system. Diseases are becoming immune everyday to things like penicillin. Slowly, but surely, we are destroying our bodies' natural defense systems. We are beginning to rely on man made solutions to solve man made problems.
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Which is why I love the dr. i have. He will not prescribe any medicine that is not needed and def. not antibiotics unless he knows what it is and that it's not a virus. Due to the overuse and abuse of giving antibiotics to anyone and everyone that has so much as a sniffle, really harmful diseases are now becoming immune to what you're throwing at them. It'll come down to people dying of the common cold again.

Well, let me tell you something missy....As a parent of a 7 year old AUTISTIC son, I defintely believe there is some sort of correlation between the vaccine MMR and autsim. When my son was exactly 15 mos, he received his normal "vaccinations". ..Almost a week later, I noticed that he began to lose some of his milestone developments such as speech and lost of interest in his toys.....Well, wouldnt you know that his pediatrician called because she was concerned about an unusual high level of lead in his blood system! A coincidence? I think not! Did you know that vaccine MMR contained a mercury based perservative called thimerosal that was the focus of a link with autism? If it wasnt so bad, why did they start making vaccines that were thimerosal free? According to researchers, thimerosal was meant to stay in the body for up to 6 weeks, but with some children, it was staying longer.

Now, I am not saying I am 100% against vaccinations, but as a pregnant mother, I will follow the Japanese schedule when it comes to vaccinating my newborn. I will wait until after his first 2 years of life before I will let the government inject him/her with anything whether its for his/her benefit or not!...So for any of you to criticize any parent, ESPECIALLY a parent with a child that he or she believes that was affected by these vaccinations, is flat out wrong....Walk a half mile in anyone of these parents' shoes and then decide what method you would choose to protect your child from any harm. Good intentions or not...

Brittany Ann's picture

So your saying that you would still get your child vaccinated, right? Just not at the pace at which our government would like ["I will follow the Japanese schedule when it comes to vaccinating my newborn. I will wait until after his first 2 years of life before I will let the government inject him/her with anything whether its for his/her benefit or not"]

I'm sorry I offended you, but I never claimed that I knew all of the facts surrounding autism & vaccinations - thank you for giving me a little more insight!
My main issue & reason for the post was the people claiming "religous beliefs" who didn't really have any ... I figure if you are going to take a stand for something, do it in the right manner.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Explain to me how a vaccine that contains a compound of mercury (which they're showing has no effect on development now, and the reason it was thought to in the past was not just the MMR shot, but the increased number of vaccines that contained thimerosal... think about going from 2 vaccines with thimerosal to 8 vaccines with thimerosal in them) is supposed to raise the levels of LEAD in the blood? Thimerosal does not contain lead. And if your child is 7 now, he was born in 2000, yes? Thimerosal was removed completely from vaccines by 2001, so the vaccines your child would have gotten at 15 months wouldn't have contained it (or would have contained trace amounts).

Sorry, thimerosal did not cause your son's autism.

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