On Gender Equality

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There have been much hype lately about women's rights and gender equality, and I agree with it.  The problem is, if women want to be treated as equal, they should act equal.  For example, a woman should not expect chivalry from men and at the same time complain that she feels to be dominated by men.  If women think they are "equal", they shouldn't expect men to pay for dates.  Only then will men treat women as their equals.

Also, women should not expect to participate in the armed forces if they cannot complete the same physical requirements that men can.  Government-enforced relaxations of physical requirements are just absurd, and are doing no good for the security of our country.  I am not at all against women being in combat, and that restriction should be lifted, but it just makes no sense that a woman who has half the upper-body strength of her male counterparts can be allowed to perform the same physical duties.

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I understand that women should not ask a man to pay for a date and I would deffinately not send my daughter on a date with no money in her pocket. She needs to be responsible for herself. Self reliability with men or other women.

As far as the military goes, there are some things that some people will naturally be better at than others. Men, Women, Short People, Tall People, Skiny People Ect. You get my point. Men have more upper body strength than women, they are builth that way. Smaller people in the Navy usually are on submarine duty.

Men and women are equal in a lot of ways but they will never truly be "equal" because we are differant. Women cry, and are soft and that is why men love us. Men are strong and protect us and that is why we love them.

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That is my point. I am all for women's rights, but sometimes the women's rights movement goes way too far, in saying that standards must be lowered and quotas must be made so men and women will occupy the same positions.

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Careful about that stereotype of why men and women love each other. I don't often cry, and I have never really been described as soft. Many of my female friends are neither of those things either. Likewise, why should I expect a man to be my strong protector? I feel pretty safe on my own, and I don't love men because they are hard and strong and protect me. That's stupid. If I love a man, it is because of who he is as a person.

Generalizations are dangerous.

I agree with what you said about the military - everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. Whatever, the protection of our country - I don't want to get into it. Gender categorizing is a waste of time.

I also agree that men and women should equally pay for dates, or whatever. I'm not big on the dating game, but I certainly don't expect anyone to pay my way. I'm a big girl. I think I can afford to buy myself a taco if I want one.

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It is almost as if favortism is showed to woman when rules and regulations are bent for them. I am a female myself and see no reason for standards to be lowered; if a person doesn't meet the requirements, then they just don't meet the requirements. Men and wowan aren't biologically built to be "equals."

Gender equality doesn't exactally mean that you discount gender-roles all together. Different yet equal like in the case of races, sexuality, etc.

I expect my man to treat me as an equal, but I also expect him to be chivalrous(spelling?). I have no problem having dinner on the table by the time he's off of work because that's just nice to do when he just happens to get off of work around supper time. It all comes down to what is practical in the given situation, but I see no problem in adhereing to parts of the traditional gender roles.

Women do not need to act like everything they do is ok, while men need to walk a tightrope. That I agree with.

But men and women need to find a balance in the relationship. Is the man going to be the protector and provider? Is the woman going to be the stay at home mom and homemaker? Or are they going to divvy up some of those responsibilities?

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I know a girl who got into the military before the standards were lowered, and she was pissed about it. If she could do what the men could, the other women should, as well.

Gender equality disguises itself as an attainable goal of the future; women like to think someday we'll get there. The truth of the matter is, we will never be "equal." First, for the most part, women are not physically capable of competing with men. Second, women's bodies by their very nature prohibit women from doing some of the same things as men.

Although I have come to realize its not possible, I constantly try to prove my own theory wrong. No matter how hard I try, I cannot beat my boyfriend at arm wrestling. I have tried cheating, distracting, and just plain muscling through and have failed everytime. And he is not a body builder, just an average skinny guy. As a matter of fact, I have yet to find any boy who I can do more push-ups, pull ups, or lift more weights than.

Its not just my personal opinion, as proven by professional sports. Men and women are separated because physically, for the most part, they are not on the same playing field.

In regards to military, I don't think women should have lower standards than men. This is not because I think women are as capable as men at overcoming physical obstacles, but rather I want the best military, navy, and army to protect and defend my country. Also, just being a woman myself, I cannot understand women choosing to join the armed forces. Women have to overcome personal feminine problems on top of worrying about being raped by either their own men or if they are a prisoner of war. At least if only the absolute strongest women pass the tests to join the military then they would be able to defend themselves from friends and enemies alike.

I also agree that if women want equal rights, they need to act like it. It seems women want to be equal but then they also want a man to support them. This is obviously not true in all situations, but it does happen.

***I realize this is a bit of a tangent, but also women are constantly pushing themselves further from equality in the film industry. Many films are now displaying women's breasts for minutes at a time like its no big deal. However, men are very rarely nude. What does this say about women's rights? Are we that desperate that the only way to get ahead is to give men what they want? What do other people think about this?

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