Really though, Affirmative action doesn't hurt white people.
But what about those famous anti-affirmative-action lawsuits? Well, virtually all those suing are whites like Allan Bakke (of the precedent-setting Bakke case). Baake didn’t get into Davis Medical School, but sixteen minority students from poor backgrounds did get in with the help of Davis’ affirmative action program. (Minority students from middle-class or wealthier backgrounds did not qualify for Davis’ affirmative action program). Baake, deciding that he didn’t get in because those darn colored people had taken his seat, sued, claiming that he had been “barred… by reason of race alone - from attending the school.” Despite Baake’s eventual court victory, his claim is untrue; Baake didn’t qualify because he wasn’t good enough, and even if there had been no affirmative action program at Davis, he would have been rejected.
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Yes. It doesn't hurt. It never made significant gains in increasing the amount of minority students either. The 3 percents, .3 percents... of people color admitted into higher education is Abominable. People get agitated about Affirmative Action when in fact...white priviledge does exist and it still does it today's society... However, AA doesn't. Why would black people demand AA? Doesn't it make them seem like they cant get in on their own merit.The logic is simple. History still haunts us. We have more people in the military and in jails then In College. We may not even come from the same schools. ( there is need for elementary education reform) We SHOULD want to equalize education not only RACIALLY but economically which means we are not trying to hurt white folks. How else can you explain how a former black panther is practically leading a socialist movement? We are people and humanity is important. But in the eyes of the law and society .. Everyone is not equal.
Ever wondering why There is a BET and MTV or a UPN 9 and a Fox... because we are still under the idea that
Separate is equal.
Ever look at hip hop videos and think of jim crow Sambo or black minstrelsy ( blackface). The chicken noodle soup song is not racist. The history behind it is the problem and its something we can't change. So that sense of hopelessness caries on... Two ways of thinking: No I wont do that That insults my history or I'm reclaiming the dance and the n-word.. besides I like to shake my butt.. my when I do it I'm degrading my black folk but when someone else does it aint a big deal...
AA is not our big problem... we've got bigger fish to fry.. We've ALL gotta change how we think.
You are correct that it didn't change things much. This is unfortunate. Our society has a long long way to go. Many people deny, however, that there is even a problem.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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Affirmative action DOES hurt. Before the Bakke case, some schools were able to lower their test score requirements TEN PERCENT to let in African Americans and people of other minorities. Now this is untrue, but schools still lower the requirements a little bit for admission. This country has always stood for equality of opportunity, NOT equality of results, and I just don't see affirmative action as a procedure of equal opportunity. People that apply to colleges should be judged on the same basis regardless of their race, religion, background, gender, etc...)
What do you mean "equality of results?" Also, your argument that affirmative action does hurt white people does not make much sense considering the statistics from the article.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
-Voltaire
I saw the statistics. Be it 2 percent or a half a percent in any category that gets hurt, the fact is that one individual African American is almost 1.5 times likely to get into college, when looking at SAT scores, than a Caucasian. It is just not fair, especially to the few percent that do not get in on the basis.
What happened to the 14th amendment?
The UCs are the worse at changing their focus when reviewing applications in order to reasonably accept underqualified minority candidates. The got rid of the SATs as a application factor so it wouldn't count against people they wanted to admit.
Common sense is as rare as genius. ~Emerson
"2 percent or half a percent" does not equal 150% more likely. Due to institutionalized racism, I feel that affirmative action does act in the spirit of the 14th ammendment. And that miniscule percentage that does get turned away, certainly does not get turned away from every single university they apply to.
And again, what did you mean by equality of results. I have never heard this phrase before and don't quite understand what you mean by it.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
-Voltaire
College affirmative action hurts both the largely represented groups being rejected and the underrepresented groups being accepted. I won't refer to the groups as white and black, because Asians are already outnumbering whites in university, and blacks are not the only underrepresented group in college (i.e. latinos, Native Americans).
Affirmative action hurts the minorities being accepted because pre-Baake case affirmative action let in minority candidates that we far less qualified than the applicants they were rejecting to make a place for them. Applicants who had significantly lower grade point averages and SATs ended up unprepared to handle the workload at the universities. When you can't make the grade in the first place, how can you handle it in college? So those groups being given a leg up didn't get much more than a slap in the face. This problem was the biggest at the UC campuses.
Honestly, if two candidates are equally well-qualified and one is of an underrepresented group, you should go ahead and pick that person. Affirmative action at university's whole purpose is to be unequal and give preference. AA trys to make up for past mistakes. We really should be focusing on improving the entire education system starting with elementary school.
Common sense is as rare as genius. ~Emerson