Abortion, Why it is wrong (in my opinon)

I have known many women who have been in the position of getting pregnant with risks of hurting or dieing themselves in child birth, or I also know of a few women who were raped, but still none of these women to my rememberance had an abortion. One of my friends did die in child birth, but her baby survived and is now living with someone who loves her just as if she was her own. These women that I speak of that were raped still had their babies and still love and protect them; they never would have thought about taking their child's life just because some jerk of a guy decided to rape them. No, I don't feel that there are even explainable circumstances, I believe 100% that abortion is morally and physically wrong. Young teenage girls make mistakes but they should have to deal with the consequences, remember there are other options besides "murder."

Pro-life 100%

-Lauren-

First off, I have to give kudos to this blogger for starting such a thread. I do admire and respect your stance wholeheartedly, although I am not on the pro-life position.

Now, after reading line after line of comments and responses in agreeance or disagreeance to the pro-life position, I do have a few issues with the way this has been dragged around.

First off, it seems like there has not been a consensus made regarding what "abortion" is. Some people are referring to "partial-birth abortions" and some are refering to abortions made within the first term. Although it is hard to define the term "abortion", it is essential to a discussion on abortion.

Also, there's been tons of people here stating that abortion is "right" or "wrong". First off, the idea of right or wrong is a philosophy based on the person's beliefs. What is wrong to one can be right to another. Furthermore, right and wrong is dependent on the context and situation when it was used.

Now, to my stance on this hot topic issue. I am a firm believer of the pro-choice stance. After much research into this topic throughout my years of debating legislation regarding abortion, I have come to the conclusion that the people of America should be left with the decision of abortion.

I do agree with the people that state that the child is not just the woman's body, but it is a separate human entity that is entitled to its own rights. However, we live in a society where we believe that mother and father know best for their child. I think that in abortion, the decision should be made not by the government, but by the parents of the child. For example, if the parents were drug addicts, there is a high likeliness that the child will come out with major birth defects that will impair the child for the rest of their life. Now, is it the job of the government to force the child to be born into the world with a disability that will hinder their quality of life and force them to suffer for the rest of their own life?

We cannot be naive on this issue. The government is not a one size fit all type of system. It does not always provide the best for people. I firmly believe that the parents will know what is best for their own child, not I, nor you, or anybody else for that matter.

Furthermore, if the government were to pass such a piece of legislation, there would be much more of a negative impact than a positive impact on the quality of life for children. If abortions became illegal, just imagine the possible consequences, for example: child abuse, drug and alcohol abuse, homelessness, overburdening of the social systems (medical, medicare, food stamps, etc.), and increased crime.

In America, we were formed on the notion that people had the choice and freedom to choose for themselves, that nobody had the rights to take those freedoms away from them. Although I definitely agree that abortions may not be right for everybody and not everybody should have an abortion, I believe that the choice should be in the hands of people.

Just because abortion is legal does not mean that it is right or wrong, it just provides an alternative choice. Legal abortion equals choice, which is what people want to have -- choices.

Right or wrong, that's up for you to decide.

As I read your blog and the many comments that followed-good for you! Not for what you believe in but for standing for something and not being so hateful when you justify yourself. I am truely taken back by the 29 year old lady who is super mad at you because she has a condition that makes it hard for her to carry a child. Again- good for you for not throwing punches at people!!
Peace n Bike Grease~Sara

Your post is completely unconvincing because you start off with the bible as a reason. Not everyone believes the bible should be followed or is true. Also, it is your opinion that abortion is "so unthinkable that it wouldn't be mentioned as a criminal code." So that doesnt support your side either.

I just can not understand why some mothers are so selfish as to end the lives of the helpless and innocent babies. It is the very act of the coward to attack the defendless. They were born human but they choose to be less human by their own decisions. Nothing is more inhuman than killing the helpless.

I believe we are all missing the point! The issue of legal abortions is one that is being decided for the United States of America, a two-century long democratic nation built around democratic social principles. Of course, the Founding Fathers original intent in the Constitution cannot be perfectly, 100% clearly understood. No one living was around when they were on the earth. However, since we live in a democracy, we need to make the laws by the defivitive meaning of democracy. This means free-choice, even to the point of the social contract, and protected unalienable rights. We aren't living in a Judaistic theocracy like back in Maccabee's and Jesus's time, you red-state, "Bible-belt" conservatives! So quit it with the "God sayeth ... blah, blah, blah", cuz you know America doesn't do everything according to God's standards and in his Holy will. So let people decide if they want an abortion or not; It may not be right; it may be murder in God's eyes; their soul may burn in Hell (Sheol) for all eternity, but by golly, it will be the democratic way!

P.S. I'm pro-choice, by the way.

-Oz

Let no man destroy what God has made and put together beautifully and wonderfully. Only a person of faith will understand my sentence, though.

I agree with you. I am a pro-lifer and I cannot justify abortion under any circumstances.

explain if someone got rape.
I wouldn't want to carry a rapist's baby.
How about you?

I'd also like to state that women have died trying to give birth.

People have also died trying to install light bulbs, but does that mean we shouldn't do it?

I guess we should live in darkness for the rest of eternity...kind of like you.

Please don't quote the Bible because if you eat beef and drink milk at the same time, then you are already going against one of the acts of heresy as stated in Leviticus.

Secondly, are we living in the 1st century here? Maybe you are, but I am living in the 21st century. Women who do not have babies are not shunned in today's society.

Third, we are living in a world of overpopulation now. Yes, you are right that giving and receiving life is a gift. However giving life means being responsible enough to make the hard decisions. That means most importantly not having sex or using protection. It also means knowing that you will be able to bring into the world a healthy, well parented child. And if you cannot live up to that second standard, abortion is a responsible action.

Okay. First, some people do NOT give a damn what the Bible says. Get over it. Second, abortion may actually save a mother's life. I don't know the details, but it's true. And hey, also consider the economic factor.

Abortion is murder no matter what the situation is. If you have a life-threatening condition and can't give birth, use birth control and make sure u don't get pregnant. If you are pregnant, give it up for adoption. My birth mother was pregnant when she was 17 and gave me up for adoption. A baby is a human being, and there's no difference in killing a fetus than killing a 5 year old child. I'm glad that someone actually wrote a blog about being pro-life. I get really tired of defending what is very obviously the truth about abortion all the time. Thanks for sticking up for us.

I'm pro-life also and am glad you wrote this. I don't think enough emphasis is placed on the side effects the mother can receive from having an abortion. Women have died of internal bleeding, infertility issues (like you mentioned), breast cancer has also been linked to abortions which you rarely hear of but I think major emphasis should be placed on. Also, many times a doctor may recommend an abortion for health of the mother but there aren't a lot of cases where that is actually true. I know there are definitely some but I have also heard of women where the doctors told them that but they went full term with the baby and the mothers were not injured in anyway.

She was fu[r]ther along than wha[t] she had thought and she saw her baby on the ultrasound machine. She listened to her baby's heartbeat until it stopped when she said she knew it was over.

First off, I am pro-choice and I have had two abortions in my lifetime. I have never heard of a woman listening to the baby’s heartbeat before having an abortion and you don't even have to look at the ultrasound if you choose not to which, in most states, if you are under 18 they are required to ask. In Texas, where I had my first abortion, I was under 18 and it was state law that you had to be on an IV, asleep, for the operation. You also sleep for an hour or so after they take you to the recovery room as well.

After having an abortion while fully awake, I understand the reasoning behind it.

At most clinics today you will have to sit down with a counselor before your abortion to talk about why you are choosing to have it. You have plenty of opportunities to back out and some clinics will refuse to perform the operation if they feel you haven't thought it out enough.

Most abortions are not carried out past 20 weeks, although it is legal. And if you are under 6 weeks pregnant you can have a medically induced miscarriage pretty much, an abortion via medication.

There are plenty of valid reasons a woman may choose to have an abortion for and every single one of them is fine by me if she has really given it thought and listened to both her mind and her heart. It's her body, not yours, not mine, not the governments, not societies, and not "god's". It's hers to govern as she sees fit.

Make it illegal and all you'll have it a return to the past when women died or got severely hurt by sickos who wanna play doctor and make a quick buck.

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I want to add one more thing to anyone who wants to read this. I use to didn't care about whether you did or didn't do it. Then my best friend said she was going to get one. We talked about her options and she said it would be the best for her. When she got home from having the abortion I went to go see how she was doing. On a Friday at 16 we should have been riding around not talking about (in her words) murdering her baby. She cried for so long. She was futher along than whay she had thought and she saw her baby on the ultrasound machine. She listened to her baby's heartbeat until it stopped when she said she knew it was over. She talked about how much it her physically and emotioanlly and she was put on anti depression pills. She said she wanted to walk out because she knew it was wrong but had already began dilating when she wanted to walk out she had no choice. Another of our friends carried her baby to term we went to the hospital to see it. When she saw it and held it for the first time she cried she looked at me and asked me what she had done. Neither of us have any justifacation about it but i know because of what a friend went thourough I could never have an abortion. And i know she couldn't have one either. Thats why I try to do the abortion post because i want to be there for anyone else when they need it because you don't understand how hard it is to watch your best friend suffer because of it. and when a child that would be about 2 walks and smiles at us you can still see the tears in her eyes. She said it was the hardest thing she ever had to do and i don't want anyone else to ever have to go through all the pain she went through.

Abortion should only be allowed in three conditions: If the baby has a high risk of dying during childbirth, If the birth could harm or kill the mother, or it the mother was raped. I'll agree that if a woman made a choice to have sex, she is setting herself up for pregnancy and shouldn't abort on the basis of inconveniance.

There must be exceptions however, as a dangerous childbirth is cruelty at its highest.

I have to admit, it takes a lot of courage to put up anything even this remotely controversial. The passionate replies have been frustrating, and yet inspiring at the same time, but what I admire in particular about your methodology in argumentation is that you sit back and offer your advice without shoving it down other people's throats.

I'm pro-life, and no I wasn't swayed, but it is wonderful to have someone who can actually -discuss- controversy, rather than -debate- it.

I just want to let you know that you are very brave for taking a stand on being Pro Life...I am writing a paper on Abortion and what you have written has helped me greatly to write my paper and have a better understanding of this topic.

I am shocked that people would murder a baby. People talk about their "life being over". What do you mean? Death, like having your limbs torn off like the aborted "fetus"? Or do you mean your social life? How shallow can someone be.

And enough of the stupid talk about coat hangers. I'm crying on my keyboard here at the thought of a woman being "coat hangered". I could actually have some pity, if a woman was kidnapped and tied down and "coat hangered", but if someone is stupid enough or selfish enough to choose (and pay??) to be "coat hangered" and they die, am I to cry over it? Shouldn't I cry over the baby who was in there who did not CHOOSE a murderous death? I've heard someone say that 5000 women would die a year over botched abortions if abortion were illegal. That's a death that THEY choose. And how can you compare that to over a million babies a year?

People also talk about when a baby is alive and when its brain works, etc. My guess is that none of you know anything about the matter. My guess is that doctors and scientists don't know anything. Let them create an insect in their lab from dirt. Let them create a single cell from molecules. They can't even do that, but they can tell me when human life begins and when it feels pain? HAHA!! Arrogant and foolish pride!

Morality is defined by God. If you don't like the Bible, then you have no morals. Morals are cut and dry. Black and white. Truth. If morals are up to popular opinion or vote, then they will change every year. For two hundred years in America, abortion was murder in every state. 9 judges talk a bit, and now it's just a "procedure". Flexible morality that matches the social movements and the TV generation! Killing millions of Jews was perfectly legal in Germany a few decades ago. Was that moral? Everyone thought so! And that's what's going on now. The Bible describes these times and the wickedness therein. It has plenty to say about those who call good evil and call evil good. People will be judged for their deeds with eternal consequences. Weigh that against your social life!

First I would like the comment that if you are going to post matieral like this you might want to out into word, and spell check it along with grammar check.

Now to the issue. Something I found interesting is that you didn't argue why the other side was wrong. You have to prove why you are right, not just by telling us that you think abortion is wrong. Using examples is good, but you have show how having an abortion is so wrong that legislation should be passed. Also your quote freom the bible

ut if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

That leaves the whole world dead! You have to understand that in bible days scince was a baby. We now know hwat happens and such and if God looks over sex then why do peple get raped? ITs good that you have an idea but you need to beef it up and explain your example and not just list them.
(ANY SPELLING AND OR GRAMMER MISTAKES ARE INTENTIOAL)

First of all, rape is not someone's mistake. It is a brutal, cruel, and animalistic action that a person chooses to do. There is no mistake involved. The scripture you quote refers to the injuries of the mother. The baby's brain waves do not begin until the third month of gestation (pregnancy), since a person is considered legally dead when brain waves stop, this would make a person legally alive. Almost all abortions are done long before this point. Most of the time, the baby is still just a conglomerate of cells. I am pro-choice, but I consider children a blessing, and would not have an abortion unless absolutely necessary. The notion of getting an abortion turns my stomach, but the notion of some poor desperate woman being coat-hangered in a back alley turns my stomach far more. I think there should be a psychological evaluation before the abortion will be performed, and I think that it has risks, just like any other medical procedure. Above all, I think it should remain legal just for the sake of safety.

I agree wholeheartedly... abortion is wrong. Midnightuser, why should a woman kill a baby to make her life "better." Even if she is raped, the innocent baby has done nothing at all to deserve death. The woman should do her part to give the gift of life. Be glad that your parents were pro-life, because even little shits like you deserve to be alive.

Because you are taking another life.
Gina

I am pro-life. It's something I'm most passionate about. I have very few opinions and this is one thing I feel strongly about. I'm very glad you used The Bible in defense of your position. I am a born-again Christian and base my life around my "religion". I believe the Bible is a very structural basis for this agruement and I like the different view point you brought up.
It's very hard to explain to a non-believer your morals and values.
I would encourage to continue to fight for what you believe in. We live in a perverse world and a world where right and wrong are twisted so we can get our way.
I'll be praying for you, dear.

abortion the wrong thing too doo just put the babby up f for adoption!!!!
wat would jesus do???