Rascism was supposedly eliminated years ago, but when it comes to rascism against other races, it is still present. I am looking for scholarships and one that i came across was being given out by Bill Gates. The scholarship will pay for all expenses for up to 6 years of school, but there is one condition. You cannot be white. I also get accused of rascism because somehow, since I am white, then it must be partially my fault. I am German and my ansestors did NOT own slaves. My ansestors were small acre farmers. Sometimes I feel like I am being punished for being white. For example, I cannot go to an all black school. At the same time, I cannot go to an all white school because ,surprise, no such thing exists because its rascist. At the same time, you would not see a scholarship for only white people. It isnt fair for people to do that, but it goes both ways. I admit that it is not as severe as slavery, but sometimes I feel that I am at a disadvantage for being who I am. I am not rascist in any way. I love all people for who they are and it hurts me to be treated like I am rascist. It feels like I am being punished for something I didnt do. I am innocent.
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Okay. I hear this type of thing a lot. I understand where you're coming from...but there are certain reasons that things are the way they are.
As far as scholarships go, there is a lot of money that goes unspent. Most times, they cannot find enough minorities to apply. A lot of us dont make it to college...or are raised in school systems that dont really care about us unless we can play a sport. A greater percentage of the black population is in poverty than the white population (not to say that there arent whites living in poverty...or that they should be neglected) it is just that, as an overall RACE we are financially at a disadvantage. http://www.urban.org/Publications/309308.html. <-- Check that out.
"Blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans, however, each have poverty rates almost three times as high as whites."
Even with all of the scholarships offered, I see more whites in College than anything. Even at Florida A&M University (a historically black college) I see quite a few whites.
Anyway. what do you mean, you cant go to an all black school? Those exist? (And thats a serious question, Im not trying to get smart) Cause Ive never really heard of an "all black" school. "Historically black", that I have heard of. Is it like a high school or something?
yeah, there are all black colleges. i didnt know this either until my friend started applying for them.
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That is SO racist. see, here is my question. If there is an all black college isn't that segregation? That was banned and blacks and whites had to go to school together. But I bet you that if whites made an all white school, they would get busted and the blacks wound't. What kind of loop hole is allowing this?
me neither, i haven't heard of an all black school either, there are colleges such as howard and spellman but they are PREDOMINANTLY black not all. again, reverse discrimination does frustrate and annoy people but you see, you are minimally affected by it.
sorry but this topic sort of annoys me, i mean i see what you are saying but...historically the effects of racism and discrimination toward blacks and other minorities HAVE NOT gone away, which is why you stil have more whites in colleges, more blacks are drop outs, and those scholarships for blacks are a very small percentage compared to scholarships for all types of college students, you shuoldn't feel guilty or like they are accusing you of being whihte becauese you can't help it, but you should learn what has gone on and what there still needs to change, seriously, minorties have it really bady, people say it but it is the truth, beleive me, i am one and i would not make this up.
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I think that blacks should recieve help, but not to the disfortune of white people generations later who had no part in slavery.
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what do you propose? These days its hard to say "okay white kid, we looked your family tree and you can go to an all black school because your great great grandaddy didn't own slaves." I mean, it would be difficult to decide which white people are "disadvantaged", which had no part, etc. And personally, I don't think that whites are disadvantaged simply because they can't go to an all black school. There are plenty of schools out there.
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Here is just a thought, and don't get mad at me. But this topic is really annoying about minorities and how blacks can have an all black college but whites can't. Can you give me names of those colleges? Another thing. Whats this pity party about minorities? yes, some people are minorities and they don't deserve it but I think that the majority of minorities CHOOSE to be minorities psychologically without knowing it. Like you said, blacks are minorities compared to whites. IS it possible that they are minorities because they just accept the fact and do nothing about it? The pursuit of happiness showed a black man who was disadvantaged but he didn't blame whites or look for excuses or say "oh, well I am a minority hand me a scholarship." NO. He fought for it. Whites fight for it and so should everyone else. It won't be handed to you on a silver platter.
Its hard to talk about discrimination unless we define it and know the bounday lines. What is reverse discrimination, to be exact? If we define it, we can know whether these matters are fair or not
I agree with you to a certain extent. i dont really understand why they do such things either. i think it should be equal opportunity for ALL races
well you see, those other races had tons of opportunites up until 1960's until the civil rights mvement so now doesn't it make sense to give a little bit more help to the races that certain groups of white people have been putting down for a century..this is why i am for AFFIRMATIVE ACTION and it most of the time is equal opportunity for all races. Above All - Do no harm
Yeah. And it is unfair how there is a black tenessee beauty pageant and one for almost every state. But have you ever heard of a white tenessee beauty pageant? No. Blacks can participate in the Miss America and the black Miss America-while whites would be persecuted if they ever tried such a thing. I have never heard of an Asian Miss America or anything like that. Why blacks?
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
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A lot of these things are historical. The competitions came about because of how unfair the pageants were. Although today, a black woman can be Miss America, that is more recent. Its not like people just came up with these pageants this year...its a historical thing that they havent eliminated because it has become traditional.
Okay... so isn't it unfair that the now historical black beauty pageants are limited to blacks? Since these competitions came about by unfairness, I think that a white miss america should exist because its unfair to have an all black one.
YEs, but do you realize the unfairness of the situation. I could say the exact same excuse you did. I think that Asians aren't getting a fair chance in the Miss American beauty pageants. (by the way, when was the last time an asian was crowned? exactly.) I am going to create an asian only miss america beauty pageant. This will be a historical event and can not be eliminated because it WILL BE traditional. If this was the excuse for everything, racism would be common and rampant. What you are saying is "lets keep doing things wrong and racist because we have always done it this way. Why change?" Thats a lame excuse.
it is a touchy subject because blacks may be victims of rascism, but white people are too, just in different ways. The reason whites are is because they are trying to compensate for the Blacks history. and there is another point, because it is HISTORY, and technically we should not be being punished on both sides of the chain when we got rid of legal rascism, but at the same time, some blacks are at a disadvantrage. and also, i sayd some, so not all blacks are at a disadvantage, some are richer and smarter than white people and it is not fair that those who grew up just a good as some white people can get even more of an advantage. It should be reserved for blacks, and WHITES who really need it. cuz lets face it, presently, we have blacks that are in poverty and are suffering, but i see whites living on welfare too. It isnt entirely a question of race, and it is family history and circumstance.
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We should completely eliminate all racist organizations that are limited to one race like black miss america, etc. That is the only way to create unity and leave opportunity open for everyone so that no one is disadvantaged. WE shouldn't create these racist organizations because whites or someone else once did something bad to people back in the day. We have to get over it and move on.
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I don't understand either.
Maybe Gates wants to change America's outlook a little. He is offering the best education to anyone BUT whites. Why? Because if he doesn't, in a 100 years the next president will still be an old white guy. Besides, blacks have been disadvantaged because we as whites got a head start on them when it comes to education, etc. THey have suppressed for a long time. I mean, when did segregation end? In the 50's? I don't remember, but it wasn't that long ago. We need to give them an opportunity as well. We still have a long way to go.
I'm white, and I grew up in a small California town with all races. I guess I'm lucky that my parents weren't racist so didn't pass it on to me. Then I lived in Mississippi for 8 years during my 20's. WOW. Unless you've lived there, it's almost impossible to explain. The kids are racist because they are taught to be racist by their parents. And I mean every color, black kids are taught to hate white kids because the white kids seem to get and have more. The white kids are taught to hate the black kids because they live in the wrong area, or go to the wrong schools, or worse, didn't go to school at all. It's PATHETIC!! I've never been racist and when I moved there and worked in a restaurant, all the black guys avoiding me because they assumed I was just another Southern white chick. It took a year before they bothered to befriend me and find out I didn't care what color they were. Racism PERIOD is still alive and well and all it boils down to is ignorance. It is plain and simply ignorant to judge someone on the color of their skin. Period.
I agree with you. Like i said earlier, the way i feel is minimal to the was blacks were treated, but it is still alive today.
Speaking of racism, can someone tell me when segregation ended in America?
id have to look up the exact date, but it was after the Civil War. You also have to consider though that while they were segrregated, they were not equal at all, and also, because of this, some former slaves stayed at the slaveowners house and got paid, or went off to form all black areas to live.
it is separate but equal what you are refering to, PLessy v Ferguson and then the with whole thing with the school in Montgomery Arkansas or maybe Alabama, Anycase, it began all, in the 1960's and with Rosa Parks and MLK Jr, and The Marches all across the country..ah what a great period in time, bloody but people gave a damn about chanigng their country.
we all need to brush up on it
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
Do you guys realize how far we have come? Wow, the 60's that is not that long ago! 40 years before I was born into a free society where now everyone wants to be politically correct. But you guys, this will get better. We have come so far, in a matter of time we will be further along.
no, that was the beginning. Someone just said that segregation ENDED in the 60's with Martin Luther king.
segregation technically ended after the civil war, when they could vote, but they were still not treated fairly. in the 60's was when they became treated more fairly and more laws were made to limit the lawful segregation, but in my opinion, someone is always gonna be rescist against something, no matter what. People cannot just completely get along.
No! NO! NO! NO! NO! The main reason segregation came about was because blacks gained the right to vote and be educated. But THEN the whites didnt want to be in the same restaurants and schools and areas as the black. That's when everything began to completely seperate. Segregation didnt technically end until the civil rights movement. But even now, there is still a sort of "unconcious segregation". If you walk into a room full of blacks and whites...there are normally little "sections". Ive noticed this in all the places Ive lived. Whites tend to sit together and blacks tend to sit together. Everyonce in a while, people will sit all over the place. But more often than not, you can see distinct groups of color.
I think you are over analyzing. I just happen to sit where ever the waitress places me, or I just grab the nearest seat. All my family, we do that. We don't scan the room when we first walk in. In fact, I don't even look around at the others. I just sit anywhere, order, and eat. Now, unless you are talking about Missouri or something, thats a difference story. Because in the west, people are old fashioned and prejudiced. In the big cities, there is less of that.
black people do this just as much as whites. WE all tend to separate, but it cud also be we separate to what is familiar. and i have never moticed this, but since u have, im sure it happens sometimes. but i dont look for oppurtunities to look at how we are different and separate.
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WOW. THat is really sad. That is the reason why we still have racism. Take out the first generation from the picture, and you have a new second generation who isn't brainwashed and taught to be racist. But since these two generations are going to be passing on beliefs and ideas of racism to the next generation, it is hard to believe that racism in America will end.
I think that the past suppressed race should be compensated by providing something like affirmative action.We have to show sympathy for the less privileged .Affirmative action is meant to encourage these people not harm whites!!
I think something should be done too becasue it really wasnt fair for whites to treat them like that, but the compensation shouldnt be present in ways that it is now.
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What is affirmative action?
i think that reverse racism is alive these days, and sometimes i see it with my own eyes, within the people that walk around me on a daily basis. all i can say is that no progress can be made if our thoughts only keep on regressing.
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WE should do some kind of integrated program that teaches on the dangers of racism and on the importance of equality in public schools in the areas where racism is most prevalent, like in the south.
You think racism was eliminated years ago? If that's true, then why is it that black people make up 12% of the population, and 44% of the prison population? Why is it that blacks represent 15% of all drug users, and 53% of all imprisoned drug offenders? Why is the poverty rate 8.3% for whites and 24.9% for blacks? Why are employers 50% less likely to call back job applicants with distinctively black names? This doesn't sound like a society that has eliminated racism, to me.
And you think you're at a disadvantage, because there aren't any whites-only scholarships? The fact that you're oblivious to the racism that still exists proves just how privileged you are.
Wait a minute. Are you implying that the majority of blacks are in jail, etc because America is racist? Because they were picked on and the whites were left alone? Thats outrageous! There's a difference between knowing when you see racism, and actually being racist and blaming whites for "picking" on blacks and sending them to jail. Has it ever occured to you that there is a different reason why blacks are in jail more than whites? Whites have a better education(scholarhips, etc) we have acknowledged that. Blacks don't have the advantage and instead of going on to college, they are forced to work a minimum wage job and live in a bad area. And we all know how that goes.
see, if you come from a minority group, then it;s a given you know racism exists, i mean seriously, it is just the story of our lives. but then white people (not all but most) suddenly somehow find out that oh, they can also get discriminated against and then it becomes something they can finally relate to and I wish no one ever had to find out what racism was but that is the world we live in today
another thing is that you have to forgive most minoriteis, we take all these affirmative action, equal opportunity rights very seriously and we know all about this junk
so you should not just accuse and feel like we are attacking whites--- we aren't we are not blaming whites---we are blaming the system and people in the system and history and even in present day times who have made it so that blacks can never get out of the cycle of welfare and prisons and crack and cocaine
people, i took a class on race and academic achienvement so we can argue away, tilll it is morning but i do have to sleep because i have class at 9 in the morning
edited to add that the person never mentioned that blacks are picked and put into prisons by whites, we are all getting too emotional and not reading everything and taking it only half not fully
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
more black people asre put into jail for various reasons. They could have grown up with less chances that other people, or even some white person cud have picked them up. not all whites OR blacks are anti rascist, but you also have to keep in mind that a jury puts them there and one rascist would not make a difference. Also, i wudnt know, but i think that there are an even amount of people(black and white) who are resentful to the oppisite race. This is sad, but the point of my writing this was to point out that rascism happens oppisite ways too.
ever, but my point seems to have been lost
"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
i think even though blacks can be racist against whites...it doesnt do us much good. How many high positions do we hold in goverment? Whites run this country. its damn near impossible to act upon our racism. How many times do you hear about a black cop pulling over a white person, because he's white? Almost never, but it happens to us all the time.
How often do you hear about a white person being served last in a restaurant owned by blacks? So, yea yea yea...reverse racism....but when your people are oppressed, what good does it really do you?
hate is never good, no matter what u can or cannot get out of it. it is not a matter of black and white, its wrong. excusing rascism against whites by saying that they cant do anything is wrong. but to reply to what you said, im sure that black ppl do do that because we are all human and blacks ARE getting more important positions. a black man is even running for president. Think of COndeleezza Rice.Just because im a woman and and a women hasnt been president or other stereotypical "important"jobs doesnt give me an excuse to be sexist against men because i "cant do anything".
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YEs. I know the person never MENTIONED it but it was implied. Otherwise what was the purpose of providing these statistics after talking about racism?
Blacks make 12% of the population, and 44% of the prison population
I understood that he was implying that there is unfairness and racism in the amount of whites and blacks going to jail.
First of all, who is "we"? I thought we were all in this together, not dividing into categories. Its funny just how naturally that occurs isn't it? Another thing, you said that blacks are being put in jail by whites. Until you show facts that all blacks are being discriminated against by white jailers/people, show me that there isn't one black person who sued a black guy, etc. and ended up sending that black guy to jail. Your guys's thinking is messed up. This is ridiculous! So now everything is racism? Blacks are being discriminated against because WHITES SENT THEM TO JAIL? HOW STUPID AND MORONIC IS THAT IDEA? HAS IT EVER OCCURED THAT BLACKS AND WHITES ARE IN JAIL TOGETHER? SO we assume that blacks are in jail, not because of their crimes, but because of racism BUT whites are in jail because they deserve it? How about I say whites are in jail because blacks put them there? Or whites put them there? Cna we all think logically please?
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Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there were all black schools. After all, there are all black beauty pageants where whites are NOT allowed. Did anyone find out if there is such a thing as an all black school? I would love to know.http://www.progressiveu.org/comment/edit/190586