Plastic Surgery: Is it going too far?

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People are getting too addicted to plastic surgery.  They're changing their appearances for such superficial reasons.  I mean, a couple getting the same noses as a profession of love?  Is plastic surgery the next tattooing?  Instead of maybe getting your partner's initials tattooed to your skin (which I think is still too much unless maybe you're married;not just dating) you're going to get plastic surgery so that your noses and other body parts resemble each other?

People need higher self esteem.  So many women have breast surgeries just to look prettier, but there are so many health risks.  The implants make it difficult for mammograms to spot breast cancer.  So in the quest of looking better, women are posing greta health benefits.  So many women with breast implants have gotten breast cancer that could have been killed so much earlier had the implant not been there.

I understand plastic surgery as results of accidents or really bad appearance problems, but people are becoming way too superficial.  When are they just going to be content with who they are as a person?  Most of these people expect to all of a sudden feel great about themselves after the surgery, but then they just see another part of their body or personality that they don't like.  It's an unendgin cylce.

 Be happy with the body God gave you and consider all of the health risks before having drastic plastic surgery.  This world is becoming too plastic.

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I agree, but I would also posit that women are growing up in a society that is unfairly hostile to physical imperfection. While I'm not a supporter of unnecessary plastic surgery, I do recognize that many women feel compelled to do it by external demands.

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I understand that, but so many women think the surgery will magically fix all of their esteem problems. Usually it doesn't, though, since the problem lies deeper than just the big nose, or small breasts. Then they have the surgery and gets their hopes up, but they still face low self-esteem and/or depression.

They want a quick fix, but that's not always the case.

Breast Implants do not take away a lifetime of bad feelings about ourvelves. That takes years of doing the "work". We need to examine the whys and whens involved in our negative self-esteem problems.

Implants may give us a temporary boost towards positivity, but they are not the answer. Implants cause more problems than they could ever hope to cure. Many more... If we overlook the physical pain and disfigurement on the local level where the implants reside in our bodies, there's still the whole body reaction to having a foreign and poisonous "other" material inside us. You have heard of the O positive moms having O negative babies and going thru the side effects of her body trying to rid the foreign material from her? Well, consider the same thing going on at a 100-fold intensity level as our bodies try to reject the implant. Our immune systems go into overdrive seeking to destroy the offending tissue and starts attacking its own tissue--our nerves, joints, livers, kidneys, brains.Trust me...it's not pretty.At that point one doesn't even care if she has overs or unders or C's,D's or E's. She just wants her health back.

There is a better way to "get happy" with ourselves. It just takes more work and emotional honestly.

Either they are so insecure they have surgery or think it will make them a different person who they will not be. No matter what color you dye your hair your still the same person inside. So, implants do not make you anyone special. They just make you sick in years to come.

The saddest are the ones who do it for their husbands egos. I am not condeming any woman who does that but if a man can't love you for you.......then he isn't worth the time of day.

I agree with you that our society is too superficial, but believe it is a woman's choice if she wants to get plastic surgery or not. Just like any other operation, women are usually informed of the risks they are taking with getting plastic surgery. It is no one's responsibility but their own to be informed about and protect themselves from the possible harm of plastic surgery. It is their choice, and if problems arise, it is their fault.

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I'm not saying that it should be illegal or that women shouldn't be able to have plastic surgery. It's just sad how many millions of women are having these surgeries which don't always give them the self esteem boost that they had thought. It's sad that women feel that they have to look like Barbie dolls in order to feel good about themselves in today's society.

You are sooooo right . . . One needs only read Yahoo's SalineSupport group for women injured by breast implants for a couple hours to understand that, once they get sick from breast implants, self-esteem goes out the window. All they want is their health back. Unfortunately, some of them have children who were born AFTER they got implants who are suffering digestive problems, rashes, muscle/joint pain and other far more serious problems. You'll find some of them on Yahoo's SiliconeKids.

Unfortunately most doctors are not honest about the complications of some plastic surgeries, especially in the area of breast implants. These days 65 % of the doctors are updated on the new medications on the market and most are unaware of some of the ones that are out there and the differences in them. They just don't stay up on medicine. This happens all too often in the field of Plastic Surgery. If your lucky you may find a doctor that will warn you about the complications of foreign objects in your body and plastic surgery, and who will be make a patient be screened by a Board Certified Psychiatrist, to make sure there is no underlyiing problems and they can handle the changes and complications that can and will happen.

Yes it is still a choice and should be---
HOWEVER, DO THE DOCTORS WHO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE BREAST IMPLANT (REPEAT BUSINESS FOR THE REST OF THE WOMEN'S LIFE--A LIFETIME DEVICE, BUT THEY DON'T LAST A LIFE TIME WITHOUT REPLACEMENT EVERY 5 YEARS IF THEY DON'T RUPTURE AND BREAK BEFORE THEN) TELL YOU ALL THE RISKS--OR SAY, I'VE NEVER HAD A CASE LIKE THIS, OR IT'S NOT COMMON ETC. ETC.
Do they tell you they have a vested interest in your going ahead with the surgery---telling you all the risks????
The plastic surgeon does tell you they don't last a life time NOW (until recently they told the women that they would last their whole life)
THEY SAID THE WERE SAFE!
THEY REALLY ARE NOT!, TOO MANY RISKS--
READ THE FDA INFORMATION BOOK, 75 PAGES LONG--on the internet or you can request a paper copy from the FDA.
Also request the brochure with all the complications many requiring more surgery--listing 25 and those are only for local complications (whatever that means--afterall the hip bone is connected the the thigh bone etc.)
They don't even mention the other risks--just ask me and thousands of other women who have them--- Ex. 5 autoimmune diseases that they have no studies for--
Ask your FDA--which you support by your taxes about all the many many many risks and serious diseases. Ask about the studies done in 2000-2003 done by objective FDA, NIH, NCI researchers--no mention of them anywhere--but I can refer you to them. The plastic surgeons ignore them--as did the mass media--I wonder why????
Any questions? Just ask
Henrietta

I agree ... choice is very important.

Definitely, tho, women need the accurate information as to the very real risks ... not the propaganda the breast implant industry spends billions in spreading throughout the various media ... in order to make educated choices.

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

Informed consent isn't a folder handed to a prospective object of income by the prospective recipient of that income. It's possible the plastic surgeon could downplay the information as nothing more than legal flap about nothing and proceed to convey safety of implants as though it were fact. It's the conflict of interest that raises a red flag for me.
Once a woman has the implant surgery, she is an automatic recurring customer for the industry. The manufacturer may guarantee replacement product, but the actual surgeries continue to be funded by the woman, creating a lovely revolving door business for the surgeon. I speak only of the $ and not the pain and loss afforded the patient due to surgeries and reactions to the product. Informed consent must present a thorough picture of the above by an independent party.

Your so right Gail, not to mention that 30% of the doctors are not following the contracts that are set forth by companies like Mentor, under order of the FDA. They are not always giving their paitents copies of these contracts and do not keep the follow-up appointments that are to be paid for by the manufacturer. Some doctors are charging the patient and the manufacturer. ( in my book that is double dipping and illegal ) They see $$$ signs and that is it!!!! Your not a patients your a serial number on a set of breasts and nothing more.

OH MY GOD!!! Don't even mention Mentor in the same sentence with "contract". Aren't they the company that recently covered up their gel-bleeding silicone implants so the FDA wouldn't see that the silicone oil was seeping through the shell of their implants but did not correct the implants that had already been implanted? It is obvious that to them a contract does not mean what most people think it should mean. Also obvious that they DO NOT CARE about the damage their leaking, seeping implants do to us.

Yes, you are correct. I have also experienced the disdain and disbelief of a plastic surgeon while telling about problems with my implants. "You must have fallen or hit them to make this 2nd set of implants leak." Duh!! No you idiot...I did not hit them! I did nothing!!! They are just deflated!!

Your right Becky. They are denying it all. They swear the women did something to the implants or that the surgeon was faulty in his/her placement. They blame everyone but themselves. Typical of any manufacturer these days. It is never their fault or their deceit that is the blame it is always the other person's fault. Like the old cartoon......"Not Me" The little ghost who is always there......

Mentor lies, Dow lies, even the implants for men or the public in general. I have know a few people who have had bad side effects from their lens replacement for cataracts. And one of the new things today is the shoulder and ankle implants, not to mention the knee replacments.

Personally I would like to see a few Lie Replacements and some Manufacturer and FDA Replacements.

Joyshow! AMEN!!!!

We desperately need new people in the FDA, so something can be done about some of these manufacturers

There are women who do get the huge boost of self esteem they were looking for and it stays with them. In addition, many plastic surgeons have resorted to haveing in-house psychologists/therapists to weed out patients who are wanting surgery for the wrong reasons.

I for one, had my eyes done. Not technically plastic surgery, but still a cosmetic option to not wear glasses or contacts. It did give me a self esteem boost -- to not feel like the geek no one will talk with. Although a minor issue, but it has made a huge difference in my life.

Good for you Jacqulyn on having your eyes done. Having that type of surgery, where no foreign object is inserted into your body is so different to me. I consider that type of surgery as just body maintenance...like having braces for your teeth or bleaching your teeth. It's safe.

Now, I think some sessions at learning to love yourself (with your new eyes) will help you see yourself as the truly great person we all have inside us.

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And that's fine and I realize plastic surgery is great for some people. But that isn't so for so many others. I forget where I read it, but over 50% of the breast implant surgeries are done to women under age 18. That's just crazy. These teens aren't even done growing and they already need breast implants. I'm not saying plastic surgery is bad; just that it's becoming a little too mainstream and normal. If it keeps growing like this there will eventually be nobody with their own natural bodies. It was just be a babrie look-a-like world.

Just wanted to comment that the FDA strongly states that breast implants should not be done to women under 18 years old ...

I don't believe the 50% statistic above is accurate ... but certainly some women way too young to make this decision are being implanted.

I have women in my support group who have had up to 20 surgeries correcting one implant related problem or the next ...

Please read this true tale of a young woman and her son ... after her saline implants:

http://www.BreastImplantAwarenesss.com/shari.htm

Your right Ilena and either the doctor falsifies records on ages or the parents lie and say the child is over 18. Now a days it is common practice to get breast implants instead of a car for your 16th birthday or for your graduation.

The harm that is done at such an young age is terrible. All we can do is be there to listen when they contact us in a few years for help and questions. As the old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." They will get thristy one day for imformation. Just be there for them.

http://breastimplantawareness.org/shari.htm

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http://breastimplantawareness.org/shari.htm

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My perspectiive....No, I do not believe that plastic surgery is going too far. I think the pressure of society/media to look perfect has gone too far. Not only am I a nurse, but I am the recipient of plastic surgery. If I could turn back the clock, I'd certainly change what I did. But I can't. I had a breast augmentation. I did it purely for aesthetic reasons. I had already had 2 children and as result, my breasts looked like....oh nevermind...the point is, I just wanted to fill up the extra tissue that was already there from pregnancy. It was great at first, but it takes a few years to get the full side effects from the implants. If I could show you my skin I would. It's disgusting. Words can't even explain it. Lets just say I'll never be able to wear a dress (much less a formal gown) or a bathing suit again! And that's only 1 of the 15 adverse effects I have. Needless to say, everyday I ask myself....
What the hell was I thinking?!!!
It was my choice to have it done, but it was one that I truly regret. We should all be a little less critical of each other and ourselves....

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I'm not trying to be critical of people or to say that plastic surgery should be banned. But I do believe it's going too far. So many teens are getting plastic surgery. It's crazy. And I'm not sure if all of them really understand what they're getting themselves into. I'm not saying we should make plastic surgery illegal; rather we need to keep the patients completely well-informed of any possible adverse side effects. And we should try to help with counseling patients who seem to have emotional/esteem problems rather than immediately performing surgery.

You like so many have learned the hard way. Those who had breast reconstuctin now have to deal with what to do with the skin once the implants are removed. Some surgeons are suggesting that they should leave it there for when a truly safe implant is made. Who wants skin just hanging there for the rest of their lives. Basically we have no choices here but to remove the skin. I don't care if they are 50+ when they do the reconstruction or 30+. No matter what age the implants will come back to haunt you and harm you.

My PS suggested a possible chin implant. Not in my lifetime.........but it is out there. They say these implants are safe, yet my Podiatrist said NO to an implant in my toe when he operated. He still says no even though trying to save the joint is failed. My toe just won't bend anymore.

The worries are of Platinum these days. Most people are unaware that even Platinum is used in Pacemakers. I am not saying don't get a Pacemaker implanted. By all means please do, no one is suggesting that you just let yourself die.

Just always remember that with any foreign object placed in your body, there will always be some kind of rejection or complication. (Especially with breast implants.) Some like Rogene and Ilena and myself have friends or personal experience to prove that as a fact not a fiction or a pipedream, like the manufacturers have of implants being safe.

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I agree....it's gone too far. In my neighborhood, all of my friends want to have a plastic surgery so that they could fit in.

If young women could see the chests of women who have had implants for several years, they would shudder at the spider web designs woven by the plastic surgeons as they have cut, re-implanted, and cut some more. The final removal of the implants, if done properly, leaves a scar at least 6 inches across each breast; if there is more surgery later to remove leaked silicone that has formed granulomas, more scars are formed. The spider webs woven by plastic surgeons are terrible looking...

I think plastic surgery has not only gone to far, but the surgeons are completely impervious about problems related to breast implants.

As an implanted women I went to three doctors who told me the lump I had was "just" scar tissue built up around my implant. I was told this is a common problem so I could live with the lump or have this implant removed and another implant inserted. If you do the math you know who win$ no matter what I do. Repeated visits to check the lump and be reassured that it isn't anything serious or go right into OR and have more operations.

I went to a fourth doctor, not a plastic surgeon who insisted I have it biopsied. It was cancer.

Please women trust your instinct. You know adding a foreign object into your body is unhealthy. You know if a doctor added a hard ball, softball or basketball into your chest cavity and sewed it inside you, your body would go nuts trying to reject this items. Why would a sack of silicone or saline be any different?

Love and respect your body its the only one you will ever have and it has to last you, God willing, many, many years. Let them be healthy years.

INFORMED CONSENT SHOULD BEGIN WITH INFORMED INDIVIDUALS - but it doesn't! After 30 years as a Registered Nurse I have seen and worked with Plastic Surgeons up front and personal. "The Fox Remains in the Hen House". How can one remain unbiased as long as one is making a profit off what they are suggesting these women place in their bodies. Why do you think that Mentor and Inamed (McGhan) who changed their name to protect themselves sell insurance policies with their new products? Because boys and girls THE PRODUCT DOES NOT LAST - forget ones lifetime - it doesn't last usually more than 5-8 years. Instead of having another Class Action they simply sell you a so-called INSURANCE Policy. YOUNG AMERICA GET YOU HEAD OUT OF THE SILICA!

Women are spoon fed from the cradle to the grave what you should look like, what size you should be. Little girls are brain washed from the time they are old enough to watch TV. The Swan - Victoria Secrets - Hair Dye Commercials - Clothings ads - Jenny Craig - the list goes on and on. How could one expect a young girl to grow up without a Self-Esteem problem? Men on the other hand are sold beer, cars and Nike shoes - Thank GOD for Viagra - at least now you we can make them feel bad about something! But of course that something is covered up 24/7 and we really don't get to see it - we ONLY get to hear how wonderful it is or how BIG it is. Now - who has the self-esteem problem?

Wake up and smell the Corporate Greed for once! Think beyond the box and STOP blaming women! It only shows how uneducated you truly are to the REAL world and to mass marketing. Remove your rose colored glasses!

Today - turn on the TV and start taking notes at how many ads are directed at women. Maybe - just maybe - you will wake up and see the World as it truly is instead of blaming and pointing your fingers at the innocent. They (the women) are only guilty because of years of programing. Be an ADVOCATE for a change - we challenge YOU!

www.toxicdiscovery.com

"Informed consent" is a smokescreen. There is no informed consent when Mentor provided only three years of rupture data and evidently covered up problems with that. Inamed provided only two years.
Do these companies inform women of this? NO. Do they inform women they may need surgery every two or three years? NO
Do they tell women that the only study (2001) that has ever been done on the long term effects of rupture showed a definite correlation between implants and fibromyalgia? NO

The propaganda perpetuated by these companies has been highly successful. The mantra is that there is no evidence of disease from implants. Never mind that there have only been a couple of studies (prior too the 2001 study) funded by DOW and there were obvious flaws with those.

Women are being sold a bill of goods. The 'informed consent' is a joke. We know that, but the young women who want implants believe their doctors and the manufacturers.

This is a crime.

Why does everyone feel the need to conform to society? Isn't is nice to be different sometimes? I used to want to color my hair (my dad said no) but I'm glad I didnt do it because I love my natural hair. I used to want colored contacts because they look nice but they're so fake because when you see someone who has them it looks nice at first until you find out that it's fake. I understand there are cases where people are made fun of and it ruins their self-esteem, but you cannot always let society get the best of you. For example there was a case on Tyra's show in which a girl had two completely different size breast and had gone through a lot of suffering because she had been ridiculed ever since she was a child. In a case like this we can see the advantages of plastic surgery. But there are people who are obsessed with plastic surgery. In fact this was on Tyra's show again this past week.

do you think that if a lady has plastic surgery
and then she gets pregnet do you think it would matter that ther boobs
were fake

YES it would matter to the baby who has platinum in its milk.

From what I know, it should be fine. In most cases, if the surgery is done correctly and taken well care of, the woman should still be able to breast feed. But things can go wrong, i.e. leaks and complications, causing harm to the woman. Boob jobs are relatively safe procedures, but as with any invasive surgery problems can arise.

I think you need to reconsider how safe 'boob jobs' are.

I can introduce you to hundreds of women who would disagree. And that is just those I know.

Todays society is a joke! Im a girl of 16 and have been set a task in school on the dangers of plastic surgery for my speaking exam. I didnt realise that it was on the education curriculum!!!! Yet, it goes to show how much of a deal it is in society. I know people in school who are dead set in having some sort of plastic surgery. Whether its a boob job, nose job etc...
Im from england so these operations are available on the NHS and its so easy for a girl to have breast implants at the age of 18, on the NHS due to such a lack of self-esteem.
At such a young, niave age i think isnt there other self-esteem building opportunities out there? You only have to look at the statistics to realise what a risk there is of dangering yourself, but still the figures of people having plastic surgery rise!!

Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Of course it is. Anytime you're about to have a hot knife stuck to your throat because society says you should you're going to far.

All the money that's going to plastic surgery could cure AIDS 50 times over. Need I say more?

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If a society is willing to give freedom for temporary security, they deserve neither.

The only reason I oppose surgery for purely aestetic reasons is because, as was said, it funnels resources away from more needed areas of development/industry.

That said, as long as we're going to respect people's property rights, they can do whatever they want to their body. The key to stopping people from getting plastic surgery isn't to berate them for wanting to get it, but rather to convince them that they are in fact beautiful people (or the beauty has very little to do with cup size.)

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I agree. Some people just don't value their "differences." They don't see the SPECIALness in their unique features. Yes, it may be low self-esteem, but I credit the action of getting plastic surgery to plain old FOOLISHNESS! Lack of wisdom!

The plastic surgery lovers either don't take the time to research the consequences of plastic surgery, or they DO research the consequences but just don't care. They would rather look great NOW, and possibly suffer later. I don't think these people will change the way they think about plastic surgery, if they do, thank GOD; however, the bible says NOTHING IS NEW UNDER THE SUN so one way or another some heartless person (i.e. plastic surgeon) will come up with some way to make money off of ignorant individuals (i.e. plastic surgery patients) that is temporarily pleasing and overall permanently destructive.

Let's not condemn all plastic surgeons. We must remember that there is a real need for reconstructive surgeries. Granted, the practice has grown to expand the alterring of any human -- not just the disfigured. But you can't call them all "heartless" when the profession originated in helping people (re)gain a "normal" self.

A great example is the French woman whose face was bitten off by a dog and then transplanted.

plastic surgery does have so many health risks there is no need for it. millions and millions more people have surgery every year. Core think about all the money we r wasting and look how many people in other countries are dieing because of lack of food. Your looks dont matter if someone realy loves you they love because of you and not because or your looks especially not as a barbie doll!

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I think it is ok if it improves the persons self esteem, but there should a limit on how much is to much.

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