Race-Oriented Dorm Rooms

son_of_disaster's picture
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So have any of you heard about those segregated dorms at Columbia?  No they're not segregated by the school, the students can choose if they only want to live in a race-oriented dorm.

Personally I have no problem with it, people have a right to decide.  Yet we should be aware that breeding ground for racism can grow out of each dorm as they only see one side of the other races instead of seeing all their sides when they interact with them 24/7

Now I grow weary of the racism blogs.  So let me state.  THIS BLOG IS NOT ABOUT RACISM, SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER BLOG PLEASE.  It is about what do you think is right or wrong with having race-oriented dorms. What are your thoughts?
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jordden's picture

"THIS BLOG IS NOT ABOUT RACISM, SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER BLOG PLEASE."

that it is inevitable that the issue of racism comes into play in a situation like this. There is ignorance, there is prejudice, there is discrimination and there is racism. I do believe that one or more of those four things come into play when a person actually cares about the race/ethnicity of the person they are going to room with. Right or wrong? There is something inherently wrong with it, considering I would've expected news like this oh say, 60 years ago. This is 2007 people. However I am very aware (partially based on experience unfortunately) that the four states of mind aforementioned are alive and unwell today. So it is to be expected that there are some ignorant, prejudiced, discriminate, and/or racist youth out there today. And they may not want a white roommate, or a black roommate, or a Latino roommate, or an Asian roommate or whathaveyou. Just as it is an ignorant fool's right to be racist, it is also an ignorant fool's right to base their choice in roommate on skin color.

A minor setback in progressivism don't you think?

clintondevingeterre's picture

this tacit of choice was used following the brown decesion that made segregation illegal.

School districts allowed students to choose the school they wanted to go to....whites of course never choose black schools, and blacks were greeted at white schools with violence.

This situation takes place in a much different environment, but it allows for racist practices to persist, and sets an uneasy precedent for the future.
The goal of education instituions should be education both inside and outside of the classroom, and this includes the exposure to different cultures

This ordinance is a travesty.

clintondevingeterre's picture

this tacit of choice was used following the brown decesion that made segregation illegal.

School districts allowed students to choose the school they wanted to go to....whites of course never choose black schools, and blacks were greeted at white schools with violence.

This situation takes place in a much different environment, but it allows for racist practices to persist, and sets an uneasy precedent for the future.
The goal of education instituions should be education both inside and outside of the classroom, and this includes the exposure to different cultures

This ordinance is a travesty.

son_of_disaster's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Yes a setback and a dumb decisison. But the student's are allowed the choose. No one forces them to be in race-oriented dorms like in the early to mid 1900's.

This doesn't mean that everyone will be racist who stays in a race-oriented dorm...that right there is prejudiced to assume that there are people who will do that(there probably are but still don't assume before you know)

This is wrong, but it is a free country. Remember that, unless you change the schools mind, the government tells them to change, or they see the error in this practice, this will probably stay because of what the country was founded on.

Besides they aren't saying you can't go to school there. Just that you can decide if you want to be culturally aware of everyone at your school. I bet at least one dorm will consist of an one race and it won't just be a caucasian only dorm sadly it will be another race doing the same thing.

Dr Gonzo's picture
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"This doesn't mean that everyone will be racist who stays in a race-oriented dorm."

Anybody who makes a concious decision to exclude all other races from their living situation is a racist. To be so uncomfortable around people of another race that you do not want them in the same dorm building/floor/room with you is racist.

Try this. Replace the phrace "race-oriented dorm" with "racially pure dorm," sounds a lot worse, huh?

Hopefully there will be so little interest in racially divided dorms that the policy will disappear.

Res ipsa loquitur.
memor mori, mahalo.

npsm18's picture
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Wouldn't that be prejudice instead of racism?? I don't think that all the student would think that their race is better than others

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jordden's picture

"I bet at least one dorm will consist of an one race and it won't just be a caucasian only dorm sadly it will be another race doing the same thing."

I don't think anyone here said that ONLY white people would do this (I sure as hell know I didn't).

"This doesn't mean that everyone will be racist who stays in a race-oriented dorm...that right there is prejudiced to assume that there are people who will do that(there probably are but still don't assume before you know)"

And what else pray tell could they POSSIBLY be if they aren't one (or more) of the four things I mentioned?

son_of_disaster's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

You know what...im tired of having meaningless racism discussions...I didn't want this to be one and you made it...I wanted your ideas in it without using the racism card. Obviously i overrated people on here.

npsm18's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

In your blog you make a good point, people have a right to choose. You might be a white person that chooses to live in a Hispanic oriented dorm just to learn about different cultures you know? But I think it will be more like, all of one race here, and all of the other race in another. Sad but probably true, but I hope I'm wrong. (Didn't turn this reply into a racism discission) :)

"Education...is our best protection against
unreasoning prejudice and panic-making fear."
~President Franklin D. Roosevelt

jordden's picture

Talking about it is the only way we can come to an understanding. Either way, I TOLD you from the get go that it's inevitable that racism comes into play with a story like this. Maybe you should reread my first post.

son_of_disaster's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

haha sorry about that last comment, i was mad. I mean we always discuss racism and its the same thing just worded differently from different views.

But yeah thats what I think it'll turn out to be is one race all by themselves and wont let anyone in who isn't their race in. Very sad that we still do that

Dr Gonzo's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Hmmmm, perhaps I am confused on the actual policy. To me race-oriented dorms means dorms with a single race occupying them. Is it meant to be that there would be an "African-American" dorm that would somehow represent Blacks but allow people of all races to stay there? Like some kind of racially themed display and activities in the dorm?

If it is racial seperatism then I would say it's wrong. If it is some kind of weird racial museum I think it is hokey and naive. I really see no reason that a school should offer racially segregated dorms in the first place. There are plenty of racially segregated organizations on campus. There are racially segregated sororities and fraternities that students can live in.

People do have the right to choose, but do schools have the responsibility to offer them this particular option? Legally it wouldn't seem so, even for state universities. It seems to go against the higher goals of any campus. To my mind the school should neither push students by purposfully placing them in racially diverse rooms, nor should they give the option of racially segregated rooms/floors/buildings. Let common interests and compatability decide roommates.

Res ipsa loquitur.
memor mori, mahalo.

jodi41086's picture

I agree its the students choice but truthfully if I was going to college away from home wouldn't you want to live with someone with the same general traditions as you do? I dunno maybe its just me but I'll never live in a dorm.. hehe too poor to live on campus lol

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Race-oriented dorms are a horrible idea. Shouldn't exist in my opinion. I can't see what it would accomplish.

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