Should Abortion Be Made Illegal? YES

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 This is my editorial from English Class and when I was doing the research for this editorial, it really made me think more deep and and serious on this social issue: ABORTION.

 


  Abortion is a dilemma that has recently become a controversial issue and it has been discussed widely throughout the world between individuals, on magazines and newspapers and as a political event. The survey done by Los Angeles Times Poll in January 2005 resulted in 24% favored illegal abortion from 1118 arbitrarily chosen American adults. Followed by the CBS News Poll survey in March 2005 taken by 737 randomly selected American adults absorbed 25% favored no abortion access. The court deemed abortion to be illegal, with various commandments in different states through Webster in 1989,
Akron Center in 1990 and Casey in 1992. However, total of 46,023,191 abortions occurred during 1973 to 2004 in
United States. With every abortion, it shows the unawareness of the pain the babies suffer, the happiness        I agree with these regulations, I do not support abortion; there are several reasons why I have these beliefs and opinions. Abortion is a sin, a crime and a case of murder with a guilty mother.        

  First of all, abortion destroys the life of a baby that has developed senses, brain or heart. The scientists proved through researches that the babies will feel pain during the abortion. Dr. Paul Ranalli, a neurologist from
University of
Toronto concluded the thalamus can sense pain without connection between spino-thalamic and cortex occurred in 26 weeks of pregnancy which He advocated his statement with an experiment. In the test, two types of stress hormones are released in adults during the pain that are also found in the blood samples of withdrawn babies from week 16 and 19. These data from the test are absorbed 10 and 7 weeks early from the link, due to this approve do you think the fetus suffers from abortion at a time, or all the time? There is also an abundance of people who are against abortion. For instance, Dick Cheney, Arnold Schwarzenegger and George Bush veto the abortion law to be passed. George Bush quoted:” Through the sonograms and other technology, we can clearly see that unborn children are members of the human family as well. They reflect our image, and they are created in God’s own image.” Also in 1980, Ronald Reagan quoted for New York Time:” I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.”  

  Women have abortion due to unwanted pregnancy from rape because it reminds them of unpleasant memories, however this child might be valuable to the people adopted him. Appalling experience can not be a persuasive and right motive to kill a non- defensive child. Mother Teresa said" These concerns (for orphan children in India and elsewhere in the world) are very good, but often these same people are not concerned with the millions that are killed by the deliberate decision of their own mothers and this is the greatest destroyer of peace today, Abortion...For the pregnant women who don't want their children, give them to me." She, without relations to the children, takes in them as her own son and daughter. How can a mother “murder” their own children?    

  Even through the risk of abortion is reduced now, treacherous and unpleasant consequences still existing. From the medical cases, incomplete abortions with baby bones, tissues left in the womb lead to infecundity, long menstruation and ache and these can be shown with three examples from
Taiwan. In
Taiwan, two women became sterilized caused be remaining baby bones in their womb for 4 and 6 years from their abortions for ex-pregnancies. Another woman with calcified baby tissues in her womb suffered from serious dysmenorrheal and all three of them need operations to get the left parts of babies removed. This  Meister
Elkhart warned the women about abortion by exclaiming:”Abortion is a skillful marketed product sold to women at a crisis time in their own life. If the product is defective, she can’t return it for a refund.”        

  Is creating abortion an illegal rule necessary or unnecessary? These are the statements of pro-abortion choosers.

  Majority of women support abortion, as Planned Parenthood advertisement said;” Seventy-seven percent of anti-abortion leaders is men and 100% of them will never be pregnant. The Alan Guttmacher Institutes had a survey on “Why do women have abortion?” in September 2005. The result shows, 74% women said having baby will interfere with their employment and education. 73% of women can not afford another child and 48% of women refused to be single parent. These are the important reasons why women wish rights for abortion; they likes to continue the life they have to make their own choices.

  People are against abortion because they are against the government. They think that government do not have the rights on the citizens’ bodies and tell them what to do with it. If the government does, the state will be changed from democracy to communists that abolish human rights and freedom. As Edward Abbey quoted:” Abolition of a woman’s right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the state.”                    

  I think that abortion is a brutal and inhumane way of killing babies. Once again, I want to say that abortion is a sin, a crime and a murder. Before having abortion, women should judge the disadvantages and consequences of abortion, think about the killings, think about the sorrows and think about the pain that not only suffered the babies but the women themselves. Abortion does not only affect individual but the whole family. Women should include every concern into considering before abortion therefore, Women should find another area of happiness in their life due to children     

  If anyone you know are thinking about abortion please stop them, talk to them to explain the value of a life, a human being and convince them to reassess. Tell them the consequences of abortion, tell them that they might regret or feel guilty in their life afterward. Please Support the laws, spread the ideas, and call your community for help. All of us, as a member of this planet should distribute par of us to safe as many new lives as possible as they are the gifts from god.               

     

So you believe that there should be more children placed in foster care and child services? You believe that there should be more children clogging the system? What about more cases of girls throwing their children away in dumpsters and commiting sucide? The debate is actually not really about abortion, it is about when is a baby a baby. Is it when a child is conceived or when it is actually born? You can only abort a fetus all the way up until the 32 week. At this stage, it is medically still called a fetus. Also, Planned Parenthood is not only a place to go and get abortions. It is a place where poor, uninsured woman can go and have their prenatal care. It is a place where people can get tested for STD's and learn about safe sex. Therefore, I am Pro-Choice. Though I do not agree with everything they are doing, I am not against the government. I respect them.

amithystblade's picture

No matter what you call the baby or fetus... it still has a heartbeat.

Safe sex doesn't always prevent pregnancies...

We need to change "the system" as you call it. It is no longer successfully functional.

Society and just people in general need to be more open, in giving help to those who have unwanted pregnancies... the bottom line is... if you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex. Safe sex isn't going to garrentee it, but it's better than nothing... even so... if someone wants an abortion, they need counseling, proper counseling... I don't believe in abortion at all... I feel that it is a terrible thing to do... there are extreme cases of course... there is always an exception to everything... but even so...

I don't respect our government. WE need to change it. In the way to give it less power, and the people more. There is too much corruption...

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fantasticle's picture
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Oh, shut up about it already. Making abortion illegal is infringing on the personal rights of women, no matter what kind of context you try to put it in. And obviously, by my thinking this means someone, somewhere, thinks along these lines as well. I personally think squishing spiders is inhumane, unethical, and detrimental for the contol of misquitos, but you don't see me squealing like a stuck pig with supposed divine rights over it. Don't stick your foot into my ovaries, and I won't shove mine up your ass.

Wow! Couldn't agree more with your comment, fantasticle. I wrote a blog titled, 'Stay Out of My Vagina', which reminds me of the last part of your comment.

Steve Horton's picture

Spiders are insects, they do not think or have emotions. They just live. They are like machines that only do what their basic survival instincts tell them to.
Human beings can feel emotions and think. So it is incredibly different.

fantasticle's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Have you ever asked a spider how it feels about you thinking of them that way? I'm sure it'd be hurt.

Personally I'm Pro-Choice but I respect your viewpoints. I'm Pro-Choice b/c if abortion is banned (1) yes, it would be infringing upon a woman's personal rights and (2) it would drive some women to desperate measures. Have you seen the pictures? Of women trying to abort their babies with hangers? Of the serious complicatiosn that result from such measures?

Imagine what it feels like to grow up knowing that your parents wish you werent born didnt plan to have you and realy dont care what you do with your life. Parents who look at you as a burden and repeaditly tell you this. Those people shouldnt be aloud to have children if they dont want them i know from experience.
The kid had no decision on whether he/she wants to be here or not. Mabey im too strict. If this were my world there would be laws against unplanned pregnancy and also there would be phsycological requriements to have a child. To figure if the parent is capable of raising an addition to our society. Also there would be laws that limit the power of parents so that they dont have too much control over there childs life to the point that a child cant get out of a bad situation without risking their well being / even in some extream cases, life.

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Managing Director of Progressive U

What kind of laws could you pass against unplanned pregnancy? It's unplanned for a reason... it's really hard to prevent it. Besides, many people who are perfectly capable of raising a child in a loving environment have unplanned pregancies. Some women who don't think they are CAPABLE of having children suddenly wind up pregnant. Unplanned pregancy is not a bad thing. It's when people don't take the measures to prevent pregnancy and then end up with a kid that they don't want that it becomes a problem.

No one can be completely prepared for the stresses of raising a child. It's like trying to figure out how stressful medical school is going to be by just reading a bunch of books about it. You really can't prepare for what is going to happen.

Taking away power from the parents won't help in most cases. If the government tells the parents how they are to raise the child, then the child might even be in a worse situtation than if the parents had complete control. Granted, in some cases there are problems in the family, and children need to be taken away from their parents, but unless you install cameras in everyone's home to monitor this behavior, then the system we have now is the best that we can do.

While I understand where you're coming from, the ideas that you propose here, even if you never propose to make them law in this country are simply ridiculous.

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Keep God OUT OF IT! Don't bring up something like sin again. Did you know that not everyone follows Christianity? Did you know that not everyone in America subscribes to the belief of sin? And as for me, I AM a Christian and I support abortion rights. Americans should NOT have to follow what the Bible says. We are allowed the freedom of religion: if you believe abortion is a sin, then don't get abortions. But you do not have any right to force your personal beliefs on others who do not agree. We have the seperation of Church and State. Why can't people remember that?

Read my example and think about it for a moment:
My dad and his twin brother had a sister, once upon a time. Her name was Patricia, and she was beautiful and kind and very loving. She was pregnant when she found out that she had breast cancer, but, at the time, she wasn't allowed to have an abortion because she was at a Catholic hospital, I believe. Because of the fetus, she couldn't get full strength treatment for the breast cancer. Around 6 months into her pregnancy, she attempted an early birth to try to save the baby AND her life.

Both died.

Because she wasn't allowed to get an abortion, she died AND the baby died. Because she wasn't allowed the abortion, they BOTH suffered immense and prolonged pain. I never got to meet my Aunt Tricia, and my grandparents, father, and uncle are very hurt, even after all this time.

And you have the nerve to tell my grandparents that their only daughter should've died because YOU don't like abortion?

If you're so worried about killing a "person," why don't you argue something more acceptable and less extreme? Fetuses only start to have distinguishable brain waves at 7 weeks. Before brain activity, nobody can possibly be counted as alive. Are brain-dead people stuck on life support alive? No. Are fetuses, in any circumstance, ever alive before they have brain waves? No. What makes a far more sensable argument is to say that abortions should only be allowed until the 7th week of pregnancy.

Sure, it's an editorial, alright. It's fine and dandy to be your personal opinion. I hope you never present your religious beliefs as actual facts, though, or even the religious beliefs of other people as facts.

Your comment is like saying that someone who is braindead or comatose is not alive, has no value as a human being. Are you saying that it is alright to kill someone that is by your definition not fully human, such as amputees, mentaly challenged, those in comas. What makes brain waves the beginning of life? How about cell reproduction? a beating heart? Legs, arms, recognizable body parts? All of which a 7 week old baby has or is close to developing. Look at this site

www.abort73.com

and tell me whether these are not humans.

Cell reproduction -
The skin cells I kill by scratching my arm can reproduce. So do the cells in the bacteria my immune system kills constantly to keep me from getting sick.

Beating heart -
What does it mean? The brain is the center of consciousness, not the heart. Is it murder to carry out a heart transplant? The old heart gets killed in the process... No, such a proposition is silly, because the heart is just a body part, not the physical center of the living entity itself.

Recognizable body parts -
Amputated limbs are recognizable, but we kill them to save their previous owner. My skin cells contain all the DNA for recognizable body parts, but I kill them to relieve an itch. A doll has recognizable body parts, but nobody ever went to jail for killing a doll.

and also if you are so concerned about forcing your opinions on others, you are telling these unborn children that they, in your opinion, are not humans, did you ake the time to ask them, because I am sure they would disagree. You are foring your own opinion on hem, seem a litle hypocritical?

I am sure they would not disagree, because they lack the capacity to think. They are not human if they don't have a functioning nervous system.

Wow.. some of those arguments are really harsh. like "children clogging up the system" well maybe we should find a better system, they are children and have a right to life (legally since they are already alive). *personal opinion* As for making it illegal, I am very against abortion and would love to see more people 1) avoid accidental pregnancy 2) consider adoption, but I don't know that making it illegal is the best solution. It might make some people reconsider, but it might also drive others to extreme measures that will harm not only the baby but the mother as well. *yea I know technically it is a fetus, but in my opnion it is also a baby*

The government doesn't have the right to control women's bodies. The characterization of anti-abortion laws as institutionalized rape is very apt. I'm not sure I understand why you take the position you take, given that you quoted that without refuting it. You can be opposed to abortion on personal grounds, but why does that mean the anti-abortion LAWS are justified?

If abortion should be made illegal, then what should a young girl, with no money, who was raped and got pregnant do?

Look, either way you want to argue it the real issue is this: abortion will continue, whether you like it not, legally or illegally. This is a fact that will NEVER change, no matter how much is done to stop it. With this is mind, abortion should be made legal, under certain circumstances and conditions, which are too numerous to list and, in many cases, will be disregarded altogether anyway. Abortion is GOING to happen. Therefore, abortion should be made safe for the mother, legal for the mother, and available if the mother makes such a decision. We have overpopulation as it is, do not bring children into this world that are not wanted or cannot be cared for. And in summary: I WILL BE DAMNED IF SOMEONE ELSE TELLS ME WHAT I MAY OR MAY NOT DO WITH MY BODY.

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I agree with you 100% although i don't necessarily agreee with the abortion act itself it is a woman's choice whether or not she has one and it will happen either way it will just be worse if it is illegal and more dangerous. ~*Talia K*~

Kristen Jen,

If abortion is murder then women and teens who survive an illegal abortion must be punished. They must face life in prison or in states like Texas they must be executed because in our society we don't just punish the murder but we also punish the solicitor of murder. IF abortion is murder there can be no exceptions - NONE not even for the life of the woman. Women with small children and grandmothers who thought they were so into menopause they couldn't concieve will be in jail for life or will be executed.

Next, How do you prove a woman has had an illegal abortion? Evidence and to get that no woman in this country again would have an expectation of privacy. ALL women's medical records would be open to the government. Forget the NSA and monitering our phone calls, now you will have them looking into all women's medical records. It's already happening - Kansas a point in case.

NEXT you would have to gather physical evidence that a woman has used a banned birth control or had an illegal abortion by forcing them into the stirrups of government paid GYNs.

Next is the trials. With the availability of far better technology than 30+ years ago, the trials of women and doctors focusing on the details of women's sexual lives would prove riveting to a 21st century voyeuristic society, Court TV and the Internet would provide the whol world with a new spellbinding reality show.

And the first thing we'd see when we make it illegal is Blackmarket RU-486. Parental notice/consent laws, 24-hour waiting periods, biased counseling all go away.

Kristen, there is a very real consequence to advocating we criminalize abortion as murder. And here it is: http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/abortion_pictorial.html

IS this what you have in mind? Illegal abortion stops two beating hearts. It doesn't save babies. THE ONLY way to do that is with abstinence based comprehensive (not abstinence-only) sex education, More birth control research - Depo Provera, Norplant, and the female condom were all developed outside of this country because of pressure from anti-abortion groups, Better birth control availability - How about the FDA releasing the morning after pill for over the counter use and how about health insurance companies covering NOT Viagra but female birth control and finally Men and Condoms. Condoms are 98% effective in preventing pregancy if used consistently and correctly so if every man correctly wore a condom every time he had sex and didn't want to become a father, married or not guess how many unintended pregnancies we wouldn't have?!

Alan Guttmacher Institute: 56% of all abortion worldwide occur where abortion is legal while 44% of all abortions worldwide occur where abortion is illegal. About 26 millioin women worldwide have legal abortions each year, and another 20 million have abortions in countries where abortion is restricted or prohibited by law.

When abortion was illegal we had virtually the same number of abortions. How do we know that. For example, Ruth Barnett performed 40,000 abortions between 1918 and 1968 mostly in Oregon. That's a yearly average of 800. At 800 per year it would only take 1,250 additional illegal abortion providers across the US during those years to reach a total of 1,000,000 abortions a year. Feasible? Yes indeed. And that doesn't even count the number of women who self-induced which is the way most women died pre-Roe.

Kristen, tell me you are willing to defend ALL the consequences to your advocation that abortion is murder and it's criminalization. If you can't defend the consequences I outlined then you better re-think your position.

Talking with men and women about how you feel about abortion is one thing but criminalizing it because your side claims it's murder is a very different thing.

If you can't defend and stand tall for all the consequences of claiming abortion is murder then you should opt for calling abortion wrong but no longer declare it murder. The latter requires a shift in abortion public policy law that would create consequences that you never stopped to consider before you made your statements here.

Impassioned debate about the morality of abortion belongs in the pulpit, at the dinner table on editorial pages of our newpapers, on college campuses but not on the floor of Congress or state legislatures, who should when drafting abortion public policy law, treat abortion strictly as a public health issue.

Peggy Loonan, Life and Liberty for Women - www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org
peggy@lifeandlibertyforwomen.org

I do not think abortion is a good thing. I cannot even imagine having one. There are so many people out there who can't have children who would make wonderful parents, adoption all the way. However, that is what I think. And I will not impose my opinions onto other people like that. Women should be free to choose. So although I do not like abortion and only think it should be used if the mother's life is in danger, I am pro-choice because why should I tell someone what to do?

That is like saying that someone other than yourself has he right to decide whether you live or die. I disagree with your statement, I think that the responsibility is on the mother, and that the child has the right to choose, my guess is that they, just like you, would choose life.

It is absolutely not like saying that. A bundle of cells that may eventually become a child but that has no consciousness, no nervous system, no pain sensation also has no right or capability to have a preference. It is impossible to say exactly when the cells gain a human existence, but saying it's the moment of conception is just flatly wrong, because a single fertilized egg has no identity or mind. Because of this indeterminacy, the decision should be left up to the woman, to avoid allowing the state to arbitrarily impose bodily control.

I don't understand why people get so mad when they hear others advocating the life of unborn children. This debate is about when a child is considered a child. Pro-life people believe that begins at conception. Most do realize what they say is at least somewhat of an intrusion into others personal life, but that is worth it when the life of a baby is on the line. Can you really blame them for caring about human life more than a little personal space? Would you get mad if people spoke out about genocide in other countries? You speak out so much about others respecting your beliefs and rights about your body, then can you respect their beliefs about conception and their right to speak out about it?

I have no objection to someone whose personal beliefs tell them that they should not get an abortion because they believe life begins at conception. My problem is with people who try to force that same ideology on others. A fertilized egg is clearly not a baby, and the point at which it becomes one is a personal choice.

picklespeach's picture

Hmm, well I couldn't really get past all the typos and grammatical errors, so I can't really comment on the topic. I hope you didn't turn this actual copy in for grading.

Aren't you Mr. Perfect. By the way hmm isn't a word and so I can't consider your comment.

abbey's picture

You've presented evidence that fetuses can feel pain at 16 weeks, but can you prove that abortion causes pain within the first trimester? It seems like you've made a case that late-term abortion is wrong (which I agree with), but what about the morality of abortions before that time point?

So it would seem that you are saying that we should ban all abortions, even in cases where the mother cannot physically support the child? Because I think it's rather sick when one does more harm than good, especially in this case.

Plus, banning abortion wouldn't do much. If anything the abortions would move underground where there are no safety regulations for how they're performed and women would be putting their life on the line by risking, infections, disease, serious injury, and even death. keeping it legal cuts back on these happenings and gives women a safe option for abortion if the want it.

On the pain argument, the fetus' brain doesn't develop until about the sixth week of pregnancy, so one can assume the nerve functions haven't really started yet. Therefore, if an abortion is performed during this time the fetus most likely wouldn't feel any pain. I have no idea about the time between the sixth and the sixteenth week of pregnancy.

Granted, in no way am I saying "Come people let's go get abortions!" I'm merely saying that they should be an option for women who want/need them and that they should be kept legal in order to keep them safe.

ok, I can understand how people feel from both sides. Yes I believe that abortion should be a part of women's rights, but at the same time I also believe that it should be illegal. I guess you could say that I'm torn in half about it. I am completely against abortion. i believe that it is killing an innocent life that had no choice of coming into the world or not. Many women who are getting abortions have no realistic motive on why to get rid of the child. Just because they don't want a child, or it is the "wrong time" does not mean it is ok to go and kill the child. There are so many programs now that women can go to after having the child if they decide not to keep it. Abortion should not be an answer, it is just an easy way out. Although I feel this strong about abortion I do still believe that it should be allowed for medical purposes. I mean technology is getting to be so developed now that it is soon going to be possible to know whether or not your child will be born with any permanent deformities. I believe that if a woman chooses not to have because of a medical problem with the child, then abortion should be allowed. I know that it would probably be hell growing up for a child with severe deformities. Like I said, i feel completely torn in half about the situation, I say it should just be left up to the voters to decide whether it should become illegal or not.

Isn't being born with a severe deformaty or medical problems as bad as being born into a home where you aren't wanted, neglected, underfed, and unloved? I also agree the abortion is horrible, but I think it should be up to the mother to choose, if she doesn't think she can take care of the child, it should be her decision. However, just a note to people who are thinking about abortion, adoption is the way to go. And if you don't want the hassle of paperwork and everything, most states have a law and I'm sorry I can't think of the name of it, but if you leave your child at a safe place (hospital, police station, fire station) they will take the child and make sure they are taken care of (put into the system) no questions asked.

yes it is just as bad, but that is exactly why adoption is the best answer for a woman in that position. if you think about it, not very many people would want to adopt a child that has any sort of deformity.

fantasticle's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Actually, almost no one will adopt a child who is less than perfect by mental and physical standards.

Should have just given them another shot at the lottery and saved them the misery of being unwanted by the world.

No pre-born child is an unwanted child. Maybe the woman caring the baby does not want a child for a number of reasons. However there is someone who would love to adopt the child. By the way the argument for it being her body is weak. Scientifically the woman and the pre-born child have a different DNA. That makes them separate individuals. If life does not begin at conception then it cannot develop into a person. It is alive, inanimate, or dead. Only one of these 3 categories allows it to develop. It is either human or it's not. Embryo, fetus, infant etc. are all stages of human development. Now for those of you who are saying to themselves " well it isn't viable outside the womb" you are right. However a newborn, infant, toddler and young child is not viable outside the womb. They must be nurtured, fed, clothed and sheltered for them to survive. So where do we draw the line? Taking the life of an innocent human being is MURDER.

I absolutely and completely agree with you on this.

Alive, inanimate, or dead, eh?
My skin is alive. I scratch my arm, and kill skin cells. Is that murder? No.
My skin certainly isn't inanimate or dead, though.
It's not so simple.

Bacteria in my body have entirely different DNA than me. They are seperate entities. They are alive. I kill them every day by simply existing, since my immune system is continually attacking any foreign materials. Is that murder? No.
The bacteria are certainly not inanimate or dead, though.

This issue is not as clear cut as you think.

Removing a bundle of cells from a woman's uterus that has no consciousness, no operational nervous system, no functioning brain, and feels no pain is not murder, at least not from a legal perspective. Maybe you're opposed to it personally. If I was a woman I probably would be, too. But I wouldn't tell other women what choice to make.

Nightsky76's picture

hell no it should not be made illegal!!!! there are too many kids out there that do not have homes. All kids deserve to be loved and there are so many that are not. it should be the choice of the women of what is best for her then forcing things that women dont want

no

I agree with you, but I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that comments like that are really annoying. They serve no purpose. This isn't a poll, it's a discussion forum, and if you're not going to actually discuss or provide some argument, thought, idea, or information, then there's no reason to post a comment.

-I my humble opinion, thinking that abortion should be made legal just because it is going to continue even if it is made illegal is quite a weak point. If thats the case, why not we make raping, robbery and maybe even murder legal? Its going to happen anyway so we might as well make it legal no? The reason for making it illegal is to try to reduce the number of abortions. Obviously it'll still continue but the hope is that there will be a reduction in the numbers of abortion cases.
-I realised also that there are people who think that abortion should be made legal because some parents might not be able to support the child both physically and emotionally. However, why not try something better than abortion? Its called abstinence..ever heard of it? If you're not able to support a child then stay away from sex. It was YOUR decision to drop your pants in the first place. Why complain or try to abort the child then when you're pregnant later? I think that we're all very well educated and should know very well that sex CAN lead to pregnancy. If knowing that doesn't stop you from sex, then i see no reason to abort a child.
-Lastly, all this talk about human rights this, human rights that...blahblahblah. Basically i have just one question then. Does human rights justify your actions of blatant murder?

-In this case, it is a positive thing. I agree that the argument relies on abortion not being murder. But given that it's not, legalizing abortion makes them cleaner and helps prevent many more deaths.

-Two questions:
1) What if sex WASN'T their decision? Do you expect rapists to wear protection?
2) Even if it was consentual, think about what your position does to the 14th Amendment. A ban on physical abortion is functionally a statement that only men are allowed to abort their pregnancies. If a man gets a woman pregnant, he can run away, and no law will ever change that. Even if he's gotta pay cash, he's still not physically responsible for anything. He doesn't have to give up his body for nine months. The woman does. Any law that forces her to go through with that is denying her equal rights.

-Nope. I have a right to control my own body, not somebody else's. Murder is me infringing on somebody else's right. Abortion is me exercising my own corporal control. Think about what an abortion ban is - it is the state deciding that the potential child it its business, and using the woman's body to maintain it against her will. The state is forcing the woman to provide a physical service to it - and that violates the 13th amendment ban on involuntary servitude.

fallon's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

74% women said having baby will interfere with their employment and education.

So quite possibly there is something to what these feminists have been screaming for years about sexual discrimination.

As for abortions from rape not being an option... have you ever been raped? have you ever become pregnant from a rape? How can you even possible begin to imagine what it is like if you've not been through it yourself? Before you prematurely judge these women, walk a mile in their shoes. It's not our place to judge and say these women are murderers when we have never been there ourselves.

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Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

I don't believe all the issues were weighed, if you are raped by a family member I'm pretty sure you're not even going to want to put that child though the riddicule and torment of a screwed up family life, even if you give the child up for adoption you're going to have to live the rest of your life knowing that somewhere there's proof that you were raped my your brother or uncle. It's horrible and yes I do believe that abortion is not the right way to go but it's not your choice, it's the woman's choice, she'll be carrying the child, not the brother that raped her, or the man that decided to pin her down in an ally and brutally rape her then leave her for dead. Before we make abortion illegal how about we get rid of rape/sin/and murder in our society?

Steve Horton's picture

DON'T BOLD EVERYTHING!!!!!
Bolding your words is used to mark them as greater emphasis to the reader. Therefore, bolding EVERYTHING does nothing and is stupid and annoying.
Ok, now I read this.

taradawn's picture

What a load of didactic crap! I think abortion is a horrible thing, and should never be used unless the baby will not be born into a loving, caring home that is capable enough to support it. However, I do not think smearing the "words of the lord" in an english paper is very intelligent. You have your opinions, yes, and I respect that totally, but you have no right to push your values and beliefs on anyone. I think you give the Christian Faith a really bad name and are ignorant to reality. Every case has to be taken in context, and there is no black and white when it comes down to wrong and right. And no one, I repeat, NO ONE is going to tell me what to do with my body. Period. Oh, and I agree with picklespeach, the grammar mistakes in this paper are pretty awful. I'd recommend proof-reading next time.

You said, "Every case has to be taken in context, and there is no black and white when it comes down to wrong and right." All arguements for or against abortion aside, this is a self-defeating statement, since I assume you mean for it to be accepted as absolutely correct, ie black and white.

Soli Deo Gloria! ~Gracenotes

Talia K's picture

I don't think that it's a valid argument for abortion that the mother is not able to take care of the child although no child should be brought into this world under those cricumstances someone should not be having sex if they are not ready for the responsibility. Birth control and contraceptives are not 100%.... BUT a woman should definately still have the right to CHOOSE whether or not she has one!~*Talia K*~

Dee Dee's picture

Instead of taking away a woman's right to choose why not put reasonable restrictions on it just like everything else in this world.

You can't drive whenever you choose- you must have a valid license, you can't assalt someone when you choose- its illegal, you can't walk around naked when you choose- again its illegal. So you shouldn't be able to have an abortion whenever you choose but only when humane...I don't know what that means but I do believe there is a time in the very beginning of a pregnancy that the egg and sperm together do not equal a human being, no pain, and would not be considered murder.

So after that humane time period where I believe abortion is acceptable why not create amazing support for the mother for her unwanted 9 months and create an even more amazing adoption system for her unwanted child.

Instead of wasting time and money trying to take away a woman's right to choose her future why not compromise, isn't that what America is about anyway.

The money spent on campaigning to make abortion illegal could easily fund research to decide when the humane time period is and creating support for those women who are past that point.

Thanks for reading.

PS- The male birth control pill is in testing in Europe and China, so far side effects are similiar to the female pill (no idea what that means) and the effective rate has been 100%. This is absolutely amazing news so cross your fingers that all goes well and maybe in another year we will have significantly less unwanted pregnancies.

Laura8923's picture

Technology is there and there are so many birth control options out there that women and men should be held responsible for the choices they make. They should soley be held responsible for it without it affecting the life of a child. I have seen too many girls looking at abortion as another birth control for the legality of it any more to be justified. There are just too many better, less evasive options out there for something like abortion to exsist. However, for the times that a pregnancy does result for rape, encourage first the morning after pill and then abortion should be considered, as well as for the health of the mother. These are extraneous circumstances that can not always be foreseen.

Tons and Trees
briefly,
Laurah

I don't think anybody has any right to comment on a situation until they are in it. I wouldn't get an abortion, even if I was rape; with that said, I've never been rape. I don't know what goes through a persons head when they have been raped, and I hope that I never get placed in that position. However, people are always saying two wrongs don't make a right and that these women should be forced into carrying around a constent reminder of the bad experience. I would never judge a women who gets an abortion after a rape, and unless you've been raped, becomed pregnant and kept the baby, you have no right to either.

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