more and more, i start to truly believe that maybe most of us don't deserve to be here, either because they are too busy following all the stupid rules set in place by whoever, or they are too locked into whatever routine that got them here.
rules, they are more like guidelines most of the time. rules that aren't meant to be broken are called laws. rules, they define our actions, we follow them without a moments forethought. do you know what my number one rule is? there are no rules. no i don't mean anarchy. i just know that at certain times, with certain people, they choose to forgo the rules, and let someone slip through the cracks. hell sometimes i am that person, whether it be beneficiary, or proprietor.
routines, they are more like programs. i try my hardest to not fall into a routine of anything. every single time that i have done so, it has either painted me out to be an ass, or it has locked me into a certain way of thinking. neither of those things to i want to portray. neither of those does anyone want to do.
thinking outside of the box, that is something that is hard to keep up. that may be my only routine, and i am sure that in doing so, i just make a larger box to think inside of, to hold true to the metaphor. or maybe i just think outside of the sphere. i am sure that a lot of the people that i know or know of, don't do it, or at least don't portray that they do it.
doing something like thinking outside of whatever would be like doing something like this. nowiamtypingwithoutusingthestupidbigspacebarhellimightnotevenuseproperpuncuationmaybeiwillmaybeiwontwhoreallyknowsforsure?
so i guess what i am really trying to say here is, i really am not here to make friends, anyone who does want to be my friend, then by all means, do so. but my real reason for being here is to see just how far does this website uphold the ideal of progression. be it good or bad. i mean it says "Invite your friends (or your enemies)" what does that really say? to myself, it says that lengthy debate and arguments are expected here, it is okay to disagree with someone, it is okay to even dislike someone on this website.
today i was censored by the admins regarding a blog that i posted, i view this censorship as an attack on my person, on my writing and on my views. hell i might even get banned for this blog. maybe, who knows? i guess that it really is up to them.
what i am doing here, is invoking my american right of boycott, i am boycotting the fact that one of my blogs was removed from my blog entries. i circumvented that by posting it as a comment, which i guess it was, but i feel a certain lack of respect, both on my part and on theirs, but i view respect as something that is earned, not given.
it is my understanding that this website is to make further the progress of humanity and the extemporaneous countries therein. i am a human being, so wouldn't they want to further my progress as such? wouldn't they want to let me fly free of restraint, so long as i don't actually attack a person, through libel? (& i didn't do that. so i guess that i didn't attack anyone, and i am sure that if that certain someone felt attacked then maybe they should have talked to me about it first, as opposed to going through different channels, such is the way of a civilized person, it is what i would have done, had i felt attacked by another. also perceived hubris, which i am sure that people will suspect me of with this post, is an opinion, so furthermore, now they have tried to define my actions and opinions as something they are not)
do i detect hubris, or is this just plain pride?
By .demosthenes - Posted on May 19th, 2008
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Yeah I pretty much ignored the blog your talking of. It was apparent that it was suppose to be a comment response not a new blog. Do not be afraid to post long comments...its okay. It looks like cheating for more points when you make a post on a blog when it should be a comment.
Do not be dis heartened.
One question, Why do you never capitalize?
~T
all truths are easy to understand once discovered; the point is to discover them ~galileo
i capitalize, on the fact that everyone else capitalizes their sentences, and they take the time and effort to make their blogs look nice, they put gumption into it, so that they may earneth the pointeths for the scholarship doo-hicky.
i, on the other hand, just came here to blog and have a voice, so that i may better learn the limits of my social skills, and then refine them.
mostly i don't capitalize because i do not like dualist alphabets. it is a pretty pointless complexity, especially because people can still read my blogs, and understand them; just because i don't capitalize doesn't mean i am typing gibberish.
and i am not trying to be snide here, just stating why i do the things that i do.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
Its a good reason and I am an avid reader of your blogs.
I almost skipped your bog because traditionally ( Meaning I have been socialized) terrible pointless annoying hard to read blogs have no caps. Yours on the other hand ... well some how it adds character when you do and detracts from others.
Uh Oh I think your changing me
~T
all truths are easy to understand once discovered; the point is to discover them ~galileo
Let me get this straight.... you posted a blog to tell the world that you're boycotting this place because they removed a blog of yours.
Now, I don't mean this to cut too deeply, but that's kind of dumb. If you're boycotting, you tell the admins, then you just stop posting. Putting up a blog to post your boycott of a blog serves no purpose but to garner attention.
It is akin, in my mind, to people who write blogs about how everything we say is regulated and we have no freedoms left, or people who protest the President saying that he's taking away our first amendment rights.....
while i may have been angry about it yesterday, today all i can do is laugh, mostly at myself, a little at you all, and how serious you take this. i mean i already stated earlier that i am not here for the scholarship. the points are nil in my eyes. maybe i just want a high number next to my username. maybe, just maybe, i came here because of the fact that the user base is higher and more people read more blogs from other people, than on any other website that i have found.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
You didn't answer my question. You said you were utilizing your ability to boycott.
But, since then, you've made a blog and left multiple comments.
That's kind of counter to what a boycott is.
fully deserve it. look a little less closely at what i am saying and more at how, or better yet why i am saying it.
another way of looking at it is this, now i am going to post more and more blogs, and i am not trying to troll here, so that they see that they cannot stifle my words. i am boycotting the fact that they can decide which blogs get to stay up and which ones are against the terms of service. which i haven't violated. gone around maybe, like disqualifying myself from the contest, which ultimately isn't messing with it. in fact i am giving everyone else a better chance to win, by being the ultimate loser in the contest.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
So, now you're saying that you're boycotting this blog by posting more and more blogs?
If I set up a business selling widgets, will you boycott me? I could retire off of all you'd buy.
To quote The Princess Bride: "You keep on using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."
i probably wouldn't buy anything of yours. why? because i am broke. also i have quite eclectic tastes, it would be hard for you to make a widgit that i would want to buy. i do know what boycott means, i am not boycotting this website, i am boycotting the fact that they removed my blog without even asking me to change it. while it may sound stupid to you, when was the last time they removed one of your blogs, for near unjust reasons. i think that i put enough in to warrant another blog, so therefore i posted one.
to quote peter griffin: "while i do not agree with what you are saying, good sir, i will defend to the death your right to say it."
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
The scholarship may not be important to you, but you still opted to participate in the scholarship and are, therefore, bound to the same official contest rules as are other contestants. And even if you weren't in the contest, it still wouldn't be fair to those in the contest to allow you to post a comment as a blog when they aren't allowed to do so.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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automatically disqualifies me.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
No it doesn't.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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i guess that it is my new prerogative to use a great many number of curse words, and be egocentric, with a closed mind about everything. great jobs guys. you have convinced me to be an asshole all of the time.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
How exactly does my comment that you won't be disqualified for not using proper spelling/grammar equate to convincing you to be an asshole?
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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well i stated that i wanted to not be in the running for the scholarship. i just want to blog. here. so i must use profanity so my blogs aren't considered for the scholarship or contest for it. shit. i am just going to take a hiatus from here for a while. see you all in a few days or so.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
Or you could do the common sense thing and opt out of the scholarship contest by unchecking the box in your account profile since profanity won't get you disqualified either
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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what is that... are you... licking your nose?!?
Read my Blogs!
This is Why I'm Hot
ProU Blog
That's a "Fallon can't type" symbol. But... I can lick my nose! I have yet, however, to find a place in which such a talent fits. It's a bummer too... except in cold season when it's an off limits talent.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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You'd be able to get some good entertainment out of that talent! That would keep the little carrier monkeys busy for at least ten minutes.
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
I think ProU needs a nose-licking smiley.
I was thinking something like this...
but, you know, smaller...
Read my Blogs!
This is Why I'm Hot
ProU Blog
So many tangents to break all the sriousness. Love you guys and I am still laughing as I type. NOSE LICKING awesome.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
~T
all truths are easy to understand once discovered; the point is to discover them ~galileo
tangents are my superhero power.
Read my Blogs!
This is Why I'm Hot
ProU Blog
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Hmm....
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
Okie - the nose-licking emoticon might be a little hard...
But I did get a couple new ones done and up...
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
Am I allowed to say what that reminds me of or are we G rated today?!
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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Can't be any worse than what this one reminds me of... :pant:
LOL
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
And he's raising his eyebrows too!!!
rofl
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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omg. I love it! :-) and there's even a slightly g-rated one too...
Read my Blogs!
This is Why I'm Hot
ProU Blog
Well... So long as you don't start licking other peoples' noses
ew....
eh
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
i thank thee for the unchecky-box advice. i think it would be pertinent to do so. away! to the account settings mobile!
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you've got serious issues if you start picking your friends' noses.
Kaia just finished with this stage where he'd go in a different room, pick his nose and then come running up to me. "Nanny, I got something for you!"
:-!!
I've never been so grateful as I was the day he took the kleenex lesson to heart.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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Posting a comment as a blog, given that Progressiveu is currently holding the BFP scholarship contest, is simply unfair. If everyone posted their replies to other users as new blogs instead of as comments... how fair would that be when read counts and comments count and how much discussion would that generate? When you move that comment to a new blog, you effectively remove half of those that were (or would be) in the discussion simply because they never find that new blog. It's also cheating in the sense that you're now getting one point for every single person that reads the blog that should have been a comment.
It's censorship to say that you can't say this or that... it isn't censorship to say that you can say whatever you want to say so long as you do so in the correct spot. You agreed to all Terms of Service and other policies when you opted to create an account here. Griping that you are being censored when the item in question can (or has) been posted where it should have been posted in the first place is a tad ridiculous.
On another note, you can appeal decisions made by moderators, as you should already be aware. Post your complaint to the forums where it belongs, email it to the entire moderation team at info@progressiveu.org or take it up with the moderator who took the action in the first place. Writing a blog to complain about a decision is as unfair to the spirit of competition as is sliding in free read points by making your comment a blog.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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Not to mention that, as a member of this blog, they don't have a 'right' to post what they wish, where they wish, when they wish.
But then, I've never accused the masses of understanding well the rights we have.
and anyway, without using proper grammar and citing my sources i disqualify myself from the running standing, so therefore even if i am still "participating" in the contest, i am taking myself out of the running anyways. maybe i should just say "fuck" once in every blog to do so, then i would probably start capitalizing my sentences and citing sources. BUT i try to not use expletives, they are a rather base form of communication, better suited for sailors and tradespersons.
appeals don't appeal to me. bowing to the whim of another is something that i ask no one to do. all i have really asked for, directly and indirectly, is to be allowed to voice my opinion on this website. in no ways have i yelled "fire" in an unburning building. in no ways have i called anyone names (that would be assault, to those who don't know about assault charges.) i simply have defended my points of view and reasoned with people with differing points of view, all the while, still posting up more blogs, & i am not here all the time. i simply stay logged on. this morning for instance, i went out for coffee and breakfast while still logged on.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
A little bit of reverse elitism there, eh?
Nonconformists are all alike.
maybe, maybe not. i just want people to read my work, which i have a lot of. on other websites, my blogs have gone unread, and uncommented. hell sometimes i go back just to check up on them. it has been months now and the only climb in my views counter is the views that i do myself. and i have tallied. i know the numbers.
you second sentence makes perfect sense, if you view me as a nonconformist. i don't. i don't care what pack whoever follows. nonconformists are usually just jealous little zealots who cannot realize that sometimes you have to follow the pack. i really am just saying here that i would like to blog here, on this website, as opposed to another. that is a good thing for the website, it equals more hits. especially with such a dynamic userbase. maybe i am not conforming to your or the websites standards, but like i said many a time, i am not here for the scholarship. although i am participating in the contest, i am damning myself to fail. why? because people read other people's blog here. that is more important to me than anything else on this website. that and it doesn't take much along the lines of html. everything is already there.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
So, you're saying that you only post blogs here because you don't get read enough where you currently post blogs.... Gotcha.
And, you're not a nonconformist, but you don't conform to others. (odd, that's what all nonconformists say. They get in arguents about who is MORE nonconforming than the rest, not realizing that they are all the same.
I've always held the opinion that nonconformists are just egocentric individuals who think that they are more mentally developed than everyone who's existed for the last umpteen generations.
It generally breaks down, one day, when they realize that they are not.
Also, you hold that it is good for this blog to have you posting here? Why are you so dynamically special that this blog is the one that benefits from your posting? Per your own notes, you weren't very popular where you used to post.
ProU doesn't benefit because I am here. I benefit because I am here, as I am able to put out my thoughts and have them refined through the fire of discourse.
You seem to give off an attitude of "I know better anyway."
Maybe that's why you weren't very popular.
i seem to be giving off this attitude because i can, in regards to what i have said. all i really said with "i blogged somewhere else, now i am here" is just that. maybe i got tired of my reader base there, maybe i got banned, maybe i came from myspace, a supposed blogging website, maybe i never blogged and am lying. maybe i am lying but about certain things. maybe i am telling the truth.
how would you know? how would you know what i am trying to say? how would you know what type of person i am. how would you know my attitudes? how would you know anything about me? unless you are the worlds first true empathetic, you couldn't.
you know what i have let you know. nothing more. nothing less. it is that way, because i & you made it that way. not because i am this type of person or that type of person. people are people. they are incomparable. i mean sure you could say "john is like jane," but after that, you have to say "but" and then go on to explain the differences between the two, otherwise you aren't comparing them, you are summarizing them. either way it is very rude to do so.
see the above comments. i state exactly why i am here. so i can benefit myself and others.
EDIT:it might be on another page. i don't see it on this one, but what i said is "i am here to find out the limits of my social skills and then refine them so i can be a better person." or something to that effect.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
why not. in my eyes a lot of you are being elitist. why not fight fire with water?
maybe, maybe not. i just want people to read my work, which i have a lot of. on other websites, my blogs have gone unread, and uncommented. hell sometimes i go back just to check up on them. it has been months now and the only climb in my views counter is the views that i do myself. and i have tallied. i know the numbers.
you second sentence makes perfect sense, if you view me as a nonconformist. i don't. i don't care what pack whoever follows. nonconformists are usually just jealous little zealots who cannot realize that sometimes you have to follow the pack. i really am just saying here that i would like to blog here, on this website, as opposed to another. that is a good thing for the website, it equals more hits. especially with such a dynamic userbase. maybe i am not conforming to your or the websites standards, but like i said many a time, i am not here for the scholarship. although i am participating in the contest, i am damning myself to fail. why? because people read other people's blog here. that is more important to me than anything else on this website. that and it doesn't take much along the lines of html. everything is already there.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
and anyway, without using proper grammar and citing my sources i disqualify myself from the running standing, so therefore even if i am still "participating" in the contest, i am taking myself out of the running anyways. maybe i should just say "fuck" once in every blog to do so, then i would probably start capitalizing my sentences and citing sources. BUT i try to not use expletives, they are a rather base form of communication, better suited for sailors and tradespersons.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
You don't get disqualified for poor spelling, poor grammar, or non-capitalization. And you can say "Fuck" as many times as you like (given a reasonable context) and still be eligible. And there is no rule saying that your sources must be cited. What we do have is (generally) a higher caliber of readers who want to know more than your opinions - they want to know how you came to form them. That requires citing sources (many times). If you don't want to cite - that's fine. But all it can do is raise your credibility if you do.
From experience, bloggers here who are not in the contest (ahem...like me) get just as many reads (or more) and just as much commentary as their participating counter-parts. So all you're really doing by keeping the checkbox checked is agreeing to adhere to the additional contest rules of the site rather than just agreeing to the site's TOS.
And then bitching that because you don't really want to be in the contest you don't want to follow those rules.
And, for reference, we get at least 4-5 of these posts every semester saying "I've been censored, now I'm going to whine about it and I'll probably get censored again" - and we've never banned or deleted these types of posts in the past. Go searching - you'll find them.
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
i don't like being cut out of the loop. especially when it concerns my own writing.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
The moderator who initially reviewed the flag should have sent you a private message letting you know that it was unpublished after our review, and should have given you tips to edit so it could have been republished. They also should send you a link to the blog's page (since it doesn't show up in the menu if it's unpublished) so that you can go and edit.
We like to handle a lot of these things in private messages to try to maintain some discretion and allow you the chance to do the rewrites. At that time, if you wanted to just delete it, you are always welcome to ask or do so yourself. But we much rather the rewrites - it's rare when we get to republish something, and I can't speak for everyone else - but it always makes me smile when I get a private message back saying "okay, I've edited the blog, can you please review it and republish it?"
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
I can't speak for everyone else - but it always makes me smile when I get a private message back saying "okay, I've edited the blog, can you please review it and republish it?"
I like that to. It is, otherwise, wasted effort on the part of the blogger. Why not spend the 5 minutes to do the edits and get it republished instead of forfeiting the points and the time spent writing?
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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One of those people I'd probably adore. You've got a lot going on in your head, and I'd love to hear all of it. I agree about the censorship. It reminds me of a debate I had in my history class where I was the only one that believed in absolute freedom of speech, no matter what a person is saying, or who they are saying it to, or what it is about. This is progressive, rather its supposed to be. So, we should be saying what can only provide progress. And if you are anything like me, change drives progress, so we need people who don't have the same conventions as everyone else, vulgar and explicit or not. But who are we to comment words anyhow? Words can be manipulated, which is why all writers of any kind, are naturally manipulative. Leading to the point that, writing/speaking is an important part of changing or progressing, no matter what they may be.
the object here is not to pick a battle so big you can't complete it, the object is to pick a battle really small, that it almost seemed like nothing to overcome it, but in turn this battle actually turns out to be bigger, and deeper, than the first battl
Yeah, you don't have a right to say anything you want ever for any reason anywhere you are.
Just doesn't exist.
You can't scream "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, and you don't have a right to say anything you want using a medium that doesn't belong to you (I.e., the owners of this blog can cut, edit or delete your posts as they see fit, and a newspaper does not have to print your opinion, and the tv news channel doesn't have to answer your questions.)
What that right protects you from is the government arresting and killing you for saying that you don't like the President.
In your home, you're allowed to say what you want. Unless you're in NYC, of course.
Well duh. Maybe I should have said, I was the only one who believed freedom of speech SHOULD BE absolute.
the object here is not to pick a battle so big you can't complete it, the object is to pick a battle really small, that it almost seemed like nothing to overcome it, but in turn this battle actually turns out to be bigger, and deeper, than the first battl
There is a reason why flagged blogs are brought up for review to the entire Faculty; that is because many of us disagree on certain interpretations.
Personally, I don't see posting a rather long comment, as a reply to someone else's blog, as a major deal. However, the blog you are referring to made little sense and was done in poor fashion.
A) - the author's name should not have been in the title
B) - there should have been links to the original blog, to help the readers have an idea of what was going on
C) it should have in some way offered new information on the given subject that would be better read as a new blog rather than as a comment
So, for example, if I posted a blog about how clothing builds character, and cite whatever references and give my viewpoint, and you are able to take it a step further, citing new examples and a fresh perspective - that could go as a blog (provided you also link back to the original), but if you're just responding with an "I agree" or an "I disagree" - then it's best left as a comment.
Additionally, there is a reason we unpublish blog entries first before simply deleting them - that's to give you the chance to reword/rewrite them to make them suitable for publishing. Of course, you can opt not to do this, at which time the blog entry does get deleted and any points earned for it are forfeit. And, as Fallon stated, if you question any decision regarding a blog entry that has been unpublished, you can email the admin directly or PM any of the active faculty volunteers for clarification.
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence
I kind of agree with Different Voice. You should be able to write whatever you want just as long as it makes since. But people like to inforce their own rules on things. I remember when I wrote : My Hands Around your Neck Will Make you Run Out of Breath, but you Still have to love me. A lot of people liked how I depicted abuse against the woman except one person. They felt that I should have used something else to make my blog better. On their point I could not agree with because I felt the way I did it help people understand the view point of abuse from the abuser and abusee. Plus the story is true but I did play it up to catch some people's interest. Whole point was to progress out of a abusive relationship. Well someone suggested that I put it on the creative writing side. I did. But someone flagged it. I don't understand why, but they did. Now on progressive, no one flagged it though.Keep your head up.
Well, someone has the ability to flag a post, the same ability you have to make one.
It is important to separate, however, the idea of censorship from people just not liking something.
a few people are speaking for the whole of the website? sounds a bit like communism & tyranny to me... lets all get into rank and file, we'll work our asses of for the leader's of this glorious website. we'll blog. we'll blog till our fingers turn into bloody little stubs, and when they ask more of us, we'll type with our NOSES!!! ALL HAIL THE OVERLORDS!!!
yeah, NO.
unless the mods or a majority of them got together and discussed my blog, then it wasn't made with the whole in mind.
Yours truly,
.demosthenes
Actually most of the rules for the website are things that users have requested, wanted to keep the same, agree with, or demanded so... no. We, often, just do as we are bid by the general populace of ProgressiveU. If the majority think a specific rule sucks, we're all up for changing it; same as we do for features, etc.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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Dang? Can you say comment overload! :-!! Everyone sure has commented a lot on this one. Some serious, others hilarious. Well they could have at least told you they were going to tkae the blog off if you can't re-write it or have some other better solution. I get why you would want to boycott. Hey , heres something that will cheer you up a bit.
Doh!
Well hope it did!
Just for the general record, if a blog is removed, a notice is supposed to be sent by whomever removed it that states the reason it was removed and what can be done to fix the problem and get the blog republished.
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~Fallon~
An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't- A. France
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