Making 7 dollars an hour folding shirts isn't bad is it?

Well it may seem like it's not bad but why did youget a job in the first place? My friend got a job so she could pay for herself when we went out because her parents told her she had to. So she now doesn't get money from her parents and has to find a job. She takes dance and one of her teachers is an assistant manager at the brandnew outlet that's about to open up, my friend puts in word that she needs a job and by the end of the night she now belongs to the working class.

So this is great right? She got a job wihtout even having to interview, or fill out an application, or basically even try right? Well she thought so, until she actually started working. Now she has mayb one free night a weekend, and works both days on the weeekend shift. When does she do homework? when she gets home at 9, or on Sunday, all day beause she HAS to finish by Monday. But the even better question is, she is happy spending all that money right? Well her first couple pay checks hav to be towards buying clothes to even wear to work, because she has to wear that stores brand. And other than that When does she have time to spend the money? She's always working.

So ended up getting a job so she can have the money to go ou wiht us, and now that she has the money she doesn't have the time. Ironic isn't it?

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Well, I think you'll be in that sort of situation most of the time depending on your career. Some people work and work so much that they do not have time to do anything else. You can ask doctors who are stuck at the hospital all day and hardly have time to "hang out" with their friends and family although they might get more days off than people who are working for low wages. It's a sacrifice that everyone has to make. Some jobs, you have to work at midnight until mid-day just to earn enough to pay for the rent. Some of us need money more than others. Those without a degree or proper education, they will choose whatever comes in their way because they KNOW how hard it is to get a job. A job is better than nothing at all...
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I do agree with what you're saying, I'm just saying when getting a job in high school you should really be able to balance things. Make sure you have time to relax on top of homwork and your job.

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Yes, but many people do not have that privilege. Compare to taking care of the whole family through a little job, homework and social life are nothing. For a person who does not know others' family backgrounds, it is really hard to judge whether or not high school students are doing the right thing by taking a job with long hours and little pay. Sacrifice must be made sometimes. There should definitely be a balance, however, do you really think there are a lot of people who think about it? All they can get themselves to focus on is money and work. Their situation might be a deeper hole than you think.
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yes and now that my dad has just ventured into the world of the self-employed, not receiving a sterady pay check in the least bit, and my mothers part time pay check is what we live on I understand when jobs are necessary. I know my siutation doesn't sound bad, but the truth is I feel guilty buying things for myself now when I know the moeny can be spent elsewhere. My friend got the job because she is having to pay for half of her car and the senior trip to France. I'm apllying for jobs at this moment, but it's so i can pay for my college application fees and so I can buy things for myself instead of having to ask my parents for the money. And instead of going on the senior trip to France, Im going to working at a summer camp making money instead of spending it.

I know every family is different, one of the girls in my class is far from the privileged people that go to our school. She has to work to help pay the bills for her family. So I know every situation is different. I'm just asking when do you stop to wonder how to balance it all?

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Depends on your definition of "balance". What counts as balance to you? Having enough time to procrastinate at night, enough time to do homework, enough time to do housework, enough time to hang out with friends? If you mean all of those, we definitely do not have that much time on our hands. It's all about time management. You have to be wise about it. It's like choosing the right class so that your time slots do not collide. If you work 7 days a week for 12 hours, you won't have much time to do anything else. I see this sort of jobs as a short term rather than long term, don't you think? If one can endure it, good for them. If not, move on to another job.

People are looking for jobs instead of having jobs looking for them. lol
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time management is what I meant by saying "balance". To be able to do it all and give proper attention to each task. If you're too focused on school, your job work will suffer, and if you're too focused on your job, your school work will suffer.

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Doesn't seem all that fair. That job is taking away time needed for homework and taking away money for frivolous things (why on earth does she have to buy their clothes? Their clothes are probably expensive!).

A job can be good, but all good things must be in moderation.

Oh she has to wear their clothes because she can't appear tobe promoting another store. I'm not sure customers look at what the employees are wearing (well I do but not close enough to notice brands) other than to notice if they are clean and put together.

Oh she has to wear their clothes because she can't appear tobe promoting another store. I'm not sure customers look at what the employees are wearing (well I do but not close enough to notice brands) other than to notice if they are clean and put together.

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I've had at least 1 job since I was 16. It does get hard at times, especially in college when I juggled working full time, 2 part time jobs and school.

I understand the frustration, but the earlier you learn to budget, and develop the discipline to stick to a budget, the easier of a time you'll have in life.

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I'm with you. I've worked since it was legal... I didn't really have any other choice if I wanted a car, insurance, gas, spending money, school, ... even books because when I was in high school I needed to by my own books because I took Running Start classes.

I learned to balance homework, me-time, and school. I didn't really have any other choice. I even ended up in a management position and graduated with honors.

I understand if you don't have to work, take advantage while you can... but I wouldn't be the person I am without all my hard work.

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I'd rather have an applicant with a highschool diploma who has four solid years of steady work in a hamburger joint then most fresh out of college liberal arts majors with no work experience.

A liberal arts degree does not say a thing about intelligence or work ability. Too many people go to college for the wrong reasons and study subjects that prepare them for nothing that matters to an employer. And they don't even study hard while they are in school. School is one of the easiest things in life and too many fail at it.

But work experience almost guarantees that the person knows something useful and often a surprising an amount. People learn a lot by working a real job.

Now if I needed an engineer that would be a different matter.

Why would being a liberal arts major give you nothing in life?

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"Why would being a liberal arts major give you nothing in life?"

I thought I said:

"A liberal arts degree does not say a thing about intelligence or work ability. Too many people go to college for the wrong reasons and study subjects that prepare them for nothing that matters to an employer."

You may take a great deal of satisfaction from studying English Liturature or Midevil History or Basket Weaving. More power to you! But it does not make you overly attractive to most employers.

As an employer, I find a highschool graduate who has had four years in the real world at Hamburger U to be better prepared to meet my job requirements then a college graduate with little or no work experience. They know how to get to work on time. They know how to concentrate on really working rather than sitting around in a BS session. They know that people who don't perform get fired.They know about controlling cash and handling inventory and following procedures and appropriate behaviors and lots of other things that are important to business.

I've been to college and and graduate school and it is one of the easiest things in life. Compared to 8 hours a day in a Burger King or any other job, it is a vacation. Some majors require that students learn a lot and that prepares them for the future. But even kids in the hardest majors seldom devote 8 hours per day to studying on a day in and day out basis. Other majors really don't require much of anything practical although they sometimes teach some thinking, writing, research and creation skills that have some value. These people can be very good employees but they LOOK a lot more impressive to an employer if their degree is also combined with some real world work experience.

Young people who work gain a lot from it.

so basically work experience means more? Because I think if you actually took the time to complete and earn a degree it means you started something and finished it, and meeting a person through an interview leads to knowing more about them yes? I don't think one degree should matter more than another unless you're going on to a profession that requires certain studies. Working at a clothing store, it shouldn't matter whether you're or makerting major or a comparative religions major.

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