Muslim Soldiers...

Fanaile Essence's picture
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Okay, this is a bit touch and go for me, here...

Mainly because I can't find anything to back up the claims that I heard earlier today, and I am left to wonder about it...

Do you ever question the loyalty of Muslim Soldiers in the United States military?

I never thought about it before today.

But earlier today, someone tried to convince me that there had already been one case where a U.S. Muslim soldier turned and began firing on his fellow soldiers. I couldn't find anything to back this claim up, and the person telling me "couldn't remember" where she had heard this information.

Another case she tried to "inform" me of was of a U.S. Navy Muslim officer leaking information. Again, I can't find confirmation or a reference of this incident.

But this lady swears on her life that these things are happening every day within our military.

So I am left to wonder; where does the distrust come from? Is it simple discrimination (which it sounds like to me) or has she been exposed to some reasonably logical explanations to believe such things?

Do you ever question the loyalties of our Muslim soldiers? If you do, why?

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blog4progress's picture

My cousin is in the military and he's Muslim--Muslims are like any other human beings. Peoples fears like that are usually baseless or misquoted. It happens. I recommend "They Dare to Speak Out".

~Blog4progress

Before the war even really started a Muslim soldier rolled a grenade into the tent of his commanders, killing one or two. I recently read that a Muslim in the navy had given sensitive information about the whereabouts of his battle group to some insurgent group back in 2004. But the ones I've heard of you can count on one hand, it's not something like what your friend said that happens every day. Now that doesn't mean that the Muslim fighters aren't thinking about doing that, but they have the much easier method of getting themselves hired as interpreters for American soldiers. While I was over there we often talked about that, and how easy it was for anyone to get hired. Hell, I had one interpreter who couldn't even speak English. It is very easy and it happens occasionally that an insurgent fighter gets hired as an interpreter for the soldiers. The security is so tight that they can't really do anything but get information. They can't really sneak bombs onto the bases because everything is checked coming in. They aren't given weapons, so they can't shoot at us. But it is possible that they can find out when raids are happening or what information they have on the insurgent fighters in our area. All of that information is usually kept from them, but occasionally they can get lucky.

Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Well thank you for confirming that those two cases did happen, as I still have not found any other confirmation.

But, isn't there just as much a chance of anyone else betraying the military?

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There is a stereotype a Muslim, probably more than one. Anyways, please do not judge the actions of a few and make the whole religion or group of people out to be monsters. I wish I had a Muslim friend. That is part of the reason I am going to a diverse college, so I can get to know all types of people. I believe Muslims are normal like the rest of us, and kind as well. I sure that there are other cases where other kind of soldiers have fired on their own country's soldiers.

Fanaile Essence's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Oh, I didn't mean to sound as though I were stereotyping them all into military deserters or betrayers...

More just wondering where the stereotype is coming from? Fewer than five cases? There are more soldiers commiting other crimes than that and receiving less press. Or is it just blanketed fear and ignorance?

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Dr Gonzo's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

A Muslim has a responsibility to God over America. So does a Catholic to the Vatican (one of the reasons it took so long for a Catholic to be president). Anybody in the military with split loyalties is likely to turn treasonous, no matter who or what holds the loyalties.

A good soldier obeys only his officers and his country. God should be a distant father figure who rewards good soldiers for following orders and protecting the homeland. God cannot be a place that orders might come from to a good soldier.

Try attacking Rome. I promise that Catholics will be turning just like a few Muslims are now. One advantage to a theocracy is that God and Country are the same. One of the reasons many conservatives want this to be a theocracy is so God and Country can be the same and they don't have to split their loyalties.

Res ipsa loquitur.
memor mori, mahalo.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

So a good soldier would be one that does something 'because I was ordered to', without any question about whether it was right or wrong? I'm not entirely sure I want an army filled with good soldiers, then.

Course, I don't want an army filled with soldiers that will casually disregard orders either.

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Dr Gonzo's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

A good soldier doesn't question whether his orders are morally correct. You can't have soldiers in the field questioning orders. One of the main goals of military training is to train soldiers to trust and respect all orders you receive.

The military is not concerned with building moral people, it is concerned with building soldiers. Only officers can afford morals.

Res ipsa loquitur.
memor mori, mahalo.

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