Is hunting and fishing a true sport? It is in my eyes. To the ignorant eye hunting is just going out in the woods and shooting a deer. Or for fishing it is just throwing a bobber into the water and has a fish come onto it. There is so much more to both of these that you have no idea.
In hunting you have a lot of challenges. Tricking the deer is the hardest. They have a sense of smell that is over one thousand times stronger then ours. They also have eye sight that is over one hundred times better then ours. Their hearing is also by far better then ours. Getting around these is very tricky and may seem impossible but of course it is proven that it is not. You also need to know where the deer are at. Some woods will not have one deer and some will have an abundant.
In fishing you have a lot of challenges too. Granted you can just throw a bobber in and get a fish but I am talking about trophy fishing. Finding where the bass are and how to get them is very challenging.
Now granted these are sports that every normal person can take part in but that is the beauty of it. It doesn’t matter if you are muscular or heavy you can still take part in both of these. Even though it is more of a mental sport then a physical sport it is still a sport.
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would you like it if something or someone was out there hunting after you and your family every single day, because they wanted trophies?
If you knew how to read anything else at all you would know that it isn't only for trophies. Try reading some of the other blogs written by either one of us.
you're arguing like you do with others, i am not going that way. I just want the question to stick in your mind. And actually, I did read it all...but my question is an easy one :-)
I'm not arguing. I was telling you to open your eyes. I've seen your comments on other blogs, and I know how you are.
That question will not stick, because as true hunters, we know what we are doing. And we know that what we are doing is right.
That is two totaly different things. It is not all about trophies either. It is about meat. I only kill for the meat, the antlers are just a bonus.
Why do people like you try to personify animals for?
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okay, think of the same question and just replace trophies with meat.
And to answer your question....it's simple. I've killed animals before, and during the time that I did, at those exact moments, I felt something as if I could feel a part of their pain, and I don't like it. Maybe you feel nothing, because you are so immune to doing it :shrugs:
You know that is a respectful feeling though. I have a cousin that likes hunting but refuses to take part because of the same thing. It is totaly understandable.
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Jason stop being so ignorant. Animals are not people. They do not have the same emotional responses we do. This makes me sick. Why do I even blog here?
"Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil."-C.S. Lewis
Woo!
See. I knew there were other people with common sense out here..haha
Ransom, are you a creationist? Anyway, how can you be so sure animals don't have the same emotional responses as we do? Were you an animal in your previous life? Cause if you were then maybe I'd take your word for it.
How can you be sure animals do have the same emotions as we do? I guess you will never know now will you?
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That we just stop talking to this idiot.
"Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil."-C.S. Lewis
I have tried that he just keeps coming back. He is like a wart on society's ass. He just comes up in the most inopportune time.
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Objectionably stupid and irrational.
"Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil."-C.S. Lewis
I'm sincerely shocked that a progressive, mature, open-minded science-worshiper would readily agree to a statement that implies humans' superiority to other animals. Creationists are perfectly allowed to think humans are special. After all, God made Adam in His image (the Bible says so), whereas animals He created kind of half-heartedly. Science-worshipers, on the other hand, would realize that animals such as deer are relatively closely-related to humans in the evolutionary history. There's no reason to assume animals have absolutely no emotional response just because they can't talk unless... tell me, my friend, are you a creationist-atheist?
How has deer and humans become so evolutionarily close? There is no bone structure similarities or anything. There is no way you can prove that they have emotional responses.
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Try not to be so stupid. Just try.
"Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil."-C.S. Lewis
I would agree that hunting and fishing are a sport. hence the term "sportsman". What I have alot of trouble with is people calling nascar a sport. It's friggin' racing.
I think we've come to calling NASCAR a sport just because it is simpler to call it that then it is to try to name it otherwise.
lol
You really lack any mental capabilities don't you?
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I won't argue that hunting is easy. It isn't. But it is just a difficult activity. It isn't a sport. A sport is a game with rules and boundaries and points. At best trophy hunting is a competition. No one is in direct competition with a reasonable equal. What other hunters do does not interact with how well you do.
On a football field you play against the other team, and they play against you and you are playing for the same thing. You and the deer are not playing for the same thing and you aren't playing by the same rules, in fact there are no rules, only what you do and do not consider fair. So hunting is just a difficult activity, not a sport.
Res ipsa loquitur.
memor mori, mahalo.
So otherwords it is just a hobby? I can live with that. I see where you come from on it and it does make sense.
About the only sport to do with it, within that definition, is competition shooting and all.
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I beg to differ Mr. Gonzo, about "What other hunters do does not interact with how well you do." That can be true in some cases, but in a lot of cases you have to depend alot on the other hunters. If you go out on a day where you suspect many hunters wont be out then your luck of fiding a deer might be slim. Why? Because you count on other hunters to spook the deer out and into the open, other hunters keep deer in motion as you go about. If it weren't for them, you'd have a harder time hunting.
Yes, and for every deer another hunter kills that is one less deer for me to kill too. I am saying the other hunters don't conciously act against eachother in order to gain an advantage. There is no sportlike competition where the hunters wrestle with eachother while aiming or anything.
I understand there is an effect, there just isn't direct competition. Redneck got what I was saying. The kind of effect other hunters have is not comparable to, say, two opposing players in a tennis match, and therefore hunting is a hobby or activity, and not a sport.
Res ipsa loquitur.
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Well I don't agree that hunting is a sport, I've never viewed it as one. But, I don't hunt, so my attempt at sounding like I knew something was a good one. =P (My dad, brothers, uncles, cousins (both male and female) hunt, so I'm surrounded by it, but I wont do it and I've spent years listening to them talk about things)I do understand where you are coming from now, and you do bring up a good point.
My grandfathers (all three of them, don't ask) all used to hunt. But they made a distinction between hunting for trophies and hunting for food.
All of them (amazingly, this is the only thing they ever agreed on, seriously) told me that hunting for food was moral, economical, necessary, and environmentally sound. However, hunting for trophies was none of these things. They used to mock people that referred to hunting as a "sport" because they said that to make it a true sport, there would be a scoreboard and the deer would be given a rifle. They also said that trophy hunters are what ruined the practice of hunting for those people that did it for meat, clothing, or tools. And that hunting for food required no sportsmanship at all, it was a necessity and necessity is not a sport. Essentially, if you were hunting as a sport, you were doing so only to compete with other people, which was a lame thing to kill a living animal for.
As far as fishing, they said the same thing basically. I even remember my grandpa Rutan (whom I absolutely hated, by the way) saying that fishing was a lazyman's way of hunting. But I think he was referring mainly to those people you see at a lake with a log holding up their pole while they drink beer and take a nap. My Grandpa Dan (because I had two with the last name of Miller, I had to distinguish them somehow)used to say that trophy fishing was ridiculous because by the time you got your trophy the meat on the fish was no good for eating anymore, and by the time you told your friends, the fish grew.
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