So...I had planned to write more about dissociation in a nice, orderly, professional way.
But you know how they say that life is what happens when you're making other plans?
Bingo. So we'll just have to come back to that after you know this. Who likes bedtime
stories? *gasps with delight as hands shoot up*
It's 10:49 and all good proUers should either be in bed or merrily blogging for progress.
But since you are the renegade readers with insomnia, here comes a powerful story.
In 1993 I was a sophomore in college and a senior in high school. (It happens)
My freshman year of college, in 1990, I took introduction to Psychology.
The book was written by a well known psychologist, Carol Tavris, whom I knew nothing
about at the time
She was a decent writer, though, and I was one of those kids who devoured text books,
so we got along fine. I was involved in bringing charges against my abuser at the same
time and found college a necessary distraction that allowed me to remember that life did
indeed go on after terrible abuse.
Had I met Carol Tavris at this point, we probably would have gotten along well.
Now we don't, really.
And when we actually meet, which we will one day, I think, watch out for the fireworks.
You see, she is a member of the false memory syndrome foundation, a small but
politically powerful group of people whose sole purpose is to try to discount the
memories of incest survivors by making it seem that "bad therapy" is responsible for
most (if not all)
cases of recovered memory and spreading this message far and wide.
And I? I am an incest survivor. No if, ands or buts. No apologies. No doubts. No
debates. No cowering. And no bad therapy.
While I have always known this about myself, my memories would be no less valid if
the majority had been recovered in therapy. Books have been written on the neurological
basis for and validity of repressing trauma. One of the best, in my opinion, was written by
Jennifer Freyd, an incest survivor abused by her parents. The same parents who
founded the False Memory Syndrome Foundation.
So, yes, that bothers me, given that I believe strongly in the validity of repressed memory
and in the lengths many people will go to hide their guilt, but this isn't what made me feel
compelled to write this blog instead of my planned one.
So what did?
I ran into Carol Tavris and her work again. The article is an old one I had seen before,
but couldn’t discuss in any meaningful way.
However, time has passed, and in the interest of raising awareness and expressing
important concerns, I’m trying to do so.
She titled her article “Beware the Incest Survivor Machine.” The very title suggests that
therapists, activists, authors and others are creating incest survivors. At best, it
thus casts survivors as passive recipients of suggestion. At worst, it suggests that we are
manipulative and making up stories to gain sympathy.
Indeed, Ms. Tavris says that the problem with “the survivor narrative” (another demeaning phrase, in my
opinion) is that "it places responsibility for the common problems in women's lives on a single clear villain, someone safely in the woman's past. The victim doesn't have to do anything except understand the origins of her problems. Her partner doesn't have to change, as long as he is sympathetic to her early trauma. And she gets a love bath from her friends and supporters. Who could resist?"
First, a love bath? Excuse me? Who could resist? Oh, please. People who address their incest histories with friends and family are often accused of making it up, exaggerating or (my personal favorite) making too big a deal about it. If we were that desperate for a love bath, we’d all get kittens and puppies who don’t tell us this kind of stuff and feel compelled to make comments such as this. Friends grow tired, sometimes acting more like survivors of our stories than we are. We learn to be careful whom we tell.
And plus, we are more than survivors. Who wants to be discussing this all the time?
If the responses I got in my early recovery are a “love bath,” I’d hate to see a “hate bath.”
I was supported for awhile, yes, and then denied in various ways. And I was fortunate to
have a family who believed me. Many do not.
Secondly, although Tavris is correct in that many of the problems people say incest creates are
global ones common to most women and thus non-specific to incest, she ignores the fact
that incest is a foundational trauma with global effects on survivors and so common issues
(low self-esteem, depression, perfectionism, shame) are not necessarily unrelated to
incest.
Thirdly, the victim doesn’t have to do anything except understand the origin of her
problems? Sure, nothing except try to heal those problems, often for many years.
And lastly, the assumption that “the survivor narrative” implies that a survivor’s partner
Does not have to change if there are problems is unfair. Incest recovery books are not
focused on gender equality issues or power plays within relationships. They are not
interested in placing incest within a larger social research framework and thus do not feel
the need to discuss things like the need for partners to change where this is not an incest related issue.
Clearly, Tavris is interested in placing it in a larger framework as she discusses in very academic terms in some places.However, putting down the writers of incest recovery books, which she does,
assumes that the fact that they do not do this somehow makes their contributions to incest
recovery invalid.
She implies that people who write books about incest are not experts simply because they are incest survivors, work with incest survivors or have written a book about incest recovery. While I acknowledge that not everyone who has experience with incest is an expert, her list of non-experts seems to include anyone in any circumstance who is not skeptical of incest and is instead actively supporting survivors. If having something supportive to say makes you a non-expert, heaven help the future of incest recovery.
Tavris also states that counselors overstate the prevalence of incest recovery. She does
not seem to realize that these are estimates and that hard scientific data are difficult to
come by.
The online encyclopedia at http://family.jrank.org/pages/850/Incest.html states that “Prevalence rates for incest vary widely due to differences of definition, methods of study, and the population source of the data (Glasser et al. 2001). Commonly, studies report prevalence rates of child abuse in general and do not break the abuse into familial and nonfamilial. In the United States in the 1990s, it was estimated that 100,000 to one million cases of incest occur annually, but only about 10 percent of them are reported ( Johnson 1983). Although some research estimates that less than 2 percent of the general population experiences sexual abuse (Kutchinsky 1992), other studies estimate that incest is experienced by 10 to 20 percent of children in the general population (Briere and Runtz 1989; Finkelhor et al. 1990; Russell 1983). A few other countries have published research in English on the prevalence of incest. In Brazil, for example, prevalence estimates range widely from 0.05 percent to 21 percent (Flores, Mattos, and Salzano 1998).
It is not unusual to find very different prevalence rates of incest for males and females, as in the study conducted by Renvoize (1993) who reported that as many as one-third of all girls and one-fifth of boys have experienced incest. Researchers agree that girls are much more often the victims of incest. Others report that the incidence for males is less than half of that for females because a higher proportion of males are sexually abused by adults outside the home by strangers (Carlstedt, Forsman, and Soderstrom 2001; Finkelhor et al. 1990; Gonsiorek, Bera, and LeTourneau 1994). Male incest victims may also report less frequently because they are socialized not to express feelings of helplessness and vulnerability (Nasjleti 1980).
Estimates of the prevalence of incest have risen steadily since the late 1960s as knowledge of child sexual abuse and incest has increased. There is some controversy, however, over the validity of the reported prevalence of incest. The often painful and shameful aspects of sexual abuse within the family make the collection of data very difficult. It is generally thought by professionals that the underreporting of incest is common due to the secrecy, shame, the tendency to blame the victim, and criminal ramifications surrounding incest. However, false reports by children of nonoffending parents, especially in divorce-custody situations, may account for an increase in reported incidents. There has been criticism that therapists may encourage reports through a process of recovering memories forgotten by the patient. Even considering false reporting and misuse of recovering memories, it is still very likely that the number of incest cases is underreported." (I have not yet verified these sources, or listed them below, as I'm seeking to simply get this off my chest at the moment and having
worked on this post for three days, but I plan to)
Knowing that this is underreported, many authors estimate the statistics, based on available research and (gasp!) clinical experience. As is common in such instances, they qualify statements by beginning them with “As many as. ..” when describing prevalence.
I agree that authors who incorporate research into their self-help and professional books on incest should, in many cases, better support them with references. But even so, we need to remember that this is underreported and not punish authors for trying to provide a more accurate picture with the resources we currently have. But of course, if one doesn’t really believe most reports, no picture will be accurate enough.
On the question of whether incest exists, Ms. Tavris first states the following:
What is wrong with a therapist's belief in the "epidemic" prevalence of incest? Aren't we just quibbling about numbers, when the problem itself is real? Not to researchers such as Nicholas Spanos, who are worrying about the rise in what they call "pseudomemories" that are induced by some therapists and hypnotists -- not only of incest, but also of past lives, multiple personalities and participation in satanic cults.
I am very confused by this statement. Lumping these things together is her attempt to
further discount incest, but each is a separate issue (although the “multiple personalities
she dismisses are correlated with an incest history often.) As if this is not confusing
enough, she then says, “To raise these questions does not mean that all "reawakened"
memories are fraudulent or misguided. It does mean that we should be wary of believing
every case of "me too!" that makes the news, and that we should be asking why these
stories (and the advice books that play off them) are so popular now. We should also ask
where these stories lead, with what consequences for individual well-being and social reform.
I wish Tavris stick to one or the other; my head is spinning.
The reason such stories were “popular” then (in 1993) was not because of some
tremendous conspiracy but because in the 70’s and 80’s, incest was just beginning to
be addressed and in the 1990’s, the silence was broken on so many fronts.
All in all, it was a great time to be an incest survivor in therapy. For those starting or
continuing now it is much more difficult. This is due in large part to beliefs such as
Tavris’s and the skeptical stances therapists are now encouraged to take, even when
criminal prosecution is no longer a possibility according to state law. Too much of
this, and survivors just give up on therapy, feeling patronized, judged and wounded by
neutrality or outright denial.
This is sad. It makes me grieve for my fellow survivors and write incredibly long posts
like this. I know this debate will continue, but felt it really important to say this.
For more information, see:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4D7163DF930A35752C0A...
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/i/incest/in...
http://www.astraeasweb.net/politics/fmindex.html
If any of you would like research or recovery based resources, please send me a private message and I will respond as I am able.
Right now I’m going to bed.
More later.















I took this course in highschool. (college version though) I don't remember (go firgure) the person you are talking about so I may have used a different book. I knew this was a psych post as soon as I saw the title. lol.
I am sorry for what you have been through truly and not a sympathy vote what so ever. This lady has flawed views apparently from what you expressed. I knew this the second I read the suppressed memory part of this. People don't surpress and forget memories of these events. How could some one? I agree on what you said. I think this lady who wrote your psych book needs a psych herself....
http://www.progressiveu.org/032913-lupus-uncureable-wait-what
Love comments? I do too!
I will tell her how much I disapprove of her thesis. What? Did you think I would resort to violence?
This lady sounds like one of those in the camp that says Borderline Personality Disorder can't be treated. I get so mad about BPD diagnoses, because they are disproportionately applied to survivors of childhood sexual abuse (who, as you noted, are most often women). If the symptoms are so similar, why can't the abuse be the primary focus of therapy? It seems to me like BPD and all this pseudo memory crap is just the new "hysterical woman" accusation. Dismissing women who don't conform or submit as hysterical or disordered is a time honored tradition that has changed shape many times. It makes me so angry!
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman
I agree with the others and with you, crap like that is ridiculous. I hate it when anyone says things like "oh, you're just making it up," when it's obvious there is a real problem (on the same token, I hate it when people actually are making things like that up for attention).
Off topic and in regards to formatting. It looks like you wrote this entry in Word, which is great. However, Word doesn't play very well with ProU's software and makes the spacing in the entry weird. You might want to go back and make your lines and paragraphs actually look like lines and paragraphs. This is also a head's up for future entries, which I look forward to. =)
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge