Funding education: An alternative viewpoint

mvenus929's picture
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I've realized more and more over the past few weeks of how many people complain about the cost of higher education. And to some degree, I'm right there complaining with them. College is expensive, and very nearly out of reach for a lot of people.

But honestly, I'm rather tired of hearing these complaints. Why? Because I go to a university that costs me about $10,000 per academic year (fall and spring). Four years here would cost roughly $40,000, and that's INCLUDING room and board (moreso the room, cause I've lived in an apartment for the past two years and have had to pay food expenses out of pocket).

I'm graduating with a Bachelor of Science in Biology in May. I have learned so much, despite all the complaints I have about the biology program here. And guess what? I go to a state university. And not even a horribly respected one like UNC-Chapel Hill, or any of the University of California schools. Just a regular old state university.

My classmates come from all walks of life. I have friends in their 30's and 40's back in school after starting a family trying to make a better living for themselves. I have friends in their late 20's who screwed around a bit too much after high school and are now back to make things better so they don't have to work in public service their entire lives. Friends who work full time and take classes part time to get a little ahead.

So, my first point is that you don't have to go to Yale or Harvard or any of the ivy league schools to get a good education. I love my university, because I can interact with all my professors, and don't feel bad approaching most of them. An education is what you make of it, not what's printed on your diploma. If you're motivated enough, you can learn just as much (if not more) at a regular ol' state university as you would from an ivy league school. My proof? Someone from my university got into a prestigious master's program at Columbia, with classmates coming from Cornell, Duke, UNC-Chapel Hill, Berkeley, and countless other prestigious universities across the nation.

My second point is if you want it bad enough, you'll find a way to make it happen. My mom didn't have any help getting through college and ended up joining the military to pay it off. Even though my mom has agreed to pay most of my expenses, I've earned enough scholarships over the years to pay for the vast majority of my expenses (nearly $30K over three years), to the point I even turned one down last summer, because I felt others needed the scholarship more than I did. Then, of course, you hear about our own Shayla Price, who tells all about how she earned $100,000 in scholarships mostly before she graduated from high school.

Finally, for those of you complaining about a $100K debt, consider this: I'm applying to a master's program at Columbia (mentioned above). It will cost me $50K for one year, full time. Then, I plan on going to medical school. The average student now has more than $150K coming out of medical school, and I'll only be making about $45K per year (which someone can easily earn right out of undergrad), before taxes, for at least three years right out of medical school. In the process, I'll probably want to kill myself many, many times. Assuming I get NO help, and have to take out loans for everything, I'm looking at about a quarter of a million dollars of debt by the time I enter the workforce full time.

Again, if you want it enough, you'll make it happen, price tag be damned.

HRH's picture

And that's part of the beauty of a capitalist system - you work hard enough and want it bad enough, you'll make it happen. I wish you the best of luck with med school.

My mom wants me to go to Harvard, because their large endowment means tuition for me might end up being cheaper than a state school, if I can qualify for all that aid. But I don't really want to go to Harvard, it seems too big for my speed. So your blog has been somewhat of an inspiration to hang the price tag, and go where it will best serve my education. Thanks.

ediblewoman's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

I agree wholeheartedly with this post! I keep telling people that student loans are not the worst thing in the world. You can still get a mortgage when you are carrying a quarter of a million in debt, as long as it is school debt.

And state schools are whatever you make of them. Most of them are larger, so the pool is actually deeper. My very own state school is responsible for countless medical and scientific breakthroughs, we developed the first web browser, we have several Nobel laureates on staff. Our English department has graduated many famous authors and a national teacher of the year. We have conducted the foremost psychological study of twins for five decades now. And all for a fraction of the tuition.

http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/ediblewoman

ElliotFrantz's picture

I found out recently that Standford is giving free tuition to those whose families make less than 100K a year. And room and board is free if they make less than 60K a year. I know you plan on Columbia, but I figured I would just bring it up for anyone else reading this post.

http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/elliotfrantz

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

I'm talking graduate school, not undergrad. And Stanford would put me further away from my boyfriend, not closer.

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10k a year?! that's crazy

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mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

In a good or bad way? That's including housing too. It's not too bad, considering the undergrad around where I went to high school charges an arm and a leg for housing.

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dsharma23's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

I completely agree with you. College is affordable IF you're willing to do a little work. From my experience, those who complain about how much it costs to go to college don't even fill out their FAFSAs before the deadline. For those people, it seems like they're hoping the financial aid fairy will hand them a check for $20k without making an effort.

That said, I go to UC Berkeley [thanks for mentioning us :)], where out tuition is roughly $10k without room and board. After all the expenses, it gets to about $25k a year. Tuition for the UCs has gone up about 100% over the last 3 years. Everytime California has a budget short fall and the governor refuses to even charge sales taxes to yacht owners (god forbid rich people pay a sales tax for a yacht...), the first thing that happens is our tuition raises 10-15% from just the semester before. And I think it's abhorrent.

i agree I think if it is free to go to jail then it should be free to recieve an education a higher leve

mvenus929's picture
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Umm... who are you talking to? Cause it's clearly not me...

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Its the whole idea of competition that spawns those ideas to go to really prestigous higher education schools. However, most people get shut down simply going to local colleges to get that "good education". Any education is good education after all if you don't use it you lose it. So if you can I would strongly recommend going to get a truly good education at Havard, Yale, etc.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

If any education is a good education, what's the point in vying for those ivy league schools? A person who will succeed at one of those schools will succeed just as well at a state university. An education is what YOU make of it, not what school you go to.

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People need to be challenged, and your not-so-prestigious state college won't do that for some people. It's a simple fact that some people genuinely need to go to those higher-level schools.

mvenus929's picture
Managing Director of Progressive U

Just because my university isn't prestigious doesn't mean it doesn't offer a challenge. History here is really difficult, as is Chemistry. Either of those degrees will give you quite a bit of challenge. One of my friends, who is very, very smart, is at risk of not graduating in May because she's having so much trouble with one chemistry class at our school.

I say again... an education is what you make of it, not the name on your diploma. A person who needs a challenge can take on things like research and independent study if regular classes aren't challenging them enough.

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