NAACP still up to its stupid antics.

Ted Nugent recently performed at his good friend, Texas governor’s, inaugural party. He used machine guns as props and wore a confederate flag cut off shirt. He also said a few things about illegal immigrants. We all think bad about illegal immigrants whether it is personal, financial, or political reasons. Why should we down him for being public about his beliefs. But the best part is that the NAACP stated that (direct quote) “Whenever someone sports the Confederate battle flag, many Texans will be offended, and rightly so, because of what it symbolizes — the enslavement of African-Americans and more recently the symbol of hate groups and terrorists.” I do not know which is funnier the statement about Texans being offended or the Confederate Flag symbolizing terrorism. Yes the Confederate Flag has been part of ignorant hate groups but since when did a towel head start toting a Confederate Flag. Or is the NAACP claiming that Americans are terrorist against themselves. SO the NAACP seems to believe that every American sporting a Confederate flag is Anti American. Since when is flying a National flag anti American? Yes it is a National Flag, read up on the history and you will find that out. At one point in history half of our nation flew the Confederate Flag. All the Confederate Flag stands for is the same thing the American Flag stands for. Rebelling against the leaders in control. The American Flag was used in the Revolutionary War against Great Britain and the Confederate Flag was used against the Union in the Civil war. It is not my fault that negros mistaken the identity of the Confederate Flag. Learn the history before you jump to conclusions.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

"Since when did a towelhead start toting a confederate flag. Or is the NAACP claiming that Americans are terrorists against themselves"

That's exactly what they are saying, um Timothy McVeigh for example. More relevant examples would be the various anti-government militias around America. Most of those white power boys want to slaughter race traitors, ie their fellow Americans in some mythical race war they have planned. So the NAACP are right, and you have just highlighted the thickness of your own racist skull by automatically assuming that a terrorist must be 'a towelhead'.

The confederate flag does symbolise slavery to many people. Largley due to the fact that the confederates were pro slavery. You can't just sweep that one under the rug because it happened a few decades ago. Maybe it just symbolises the South and a load of things that you deem to be possitive, to you. But that does not negate what it symbolizes in it's total to other people, things like pro-slavery.

Same way if I decide to fly a bunch of flags bearing the swastika, I can argue more relevantly than your stance on the confederate flag, that the swastika is a benevolant symbol used throughout many cultures for thousands of years. But are people goin to take that on board? No, because it is seen first and formost as a symbol for Nazis and racist ideology.

The difference here is that the Confederate flag represented pro-slavery, and this was endorsed by it's originators.

No it doesnt. So much for knowing American History, Irishman. The Union supported slavery and the Confederacy supported indentured servants. I will assume you know what an indentured servant is.

Read the Union constitution and the Confederacy constitution. They both blunty state their stance on it. And you will find that I am right.

Also the swastika, when shown correctly, means being lucky. Hitler reversed the symbol to mean "unlucky".

Oh the old redneck knows some more about history then you did...

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

The swastika is evident in a host of unconnected cultures all over the world. Hitler drew his inspiration from the Nordic sunwheel, which represented the sun and the four winds.

The whole lucky business stems from the Indian variant of the swastika.

Look up both. The lucky swastika is opposite of the hitler swastika.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

The Nazi swastika is opposite to the Indian derived swastika, but Hitler drew his inspiration from the ancient Nordic symbol called the sunwheel, and the Vierfoss, an ancient Germanic swastika. This is relevant to ancient Scandinavian and Germanic cultures. As we all know hitler deemed the Scandinavians to be the most perfect example of the Aryan race, hence his Lebensborn operation in Norway, where he bred SS men with local women.

The swastika as I already stated can be found across a host of cultures. It's reversal meaning unlucky makes no sense, as Hitler was obsessed with the occult, with particular reference to Nordic/Germanic mythology. Why would he deliberately incorporate a sygil that invoked bad luck as the symbol for his movement, if he held creedance in the power of a sygil as advocated by occult practices?

I would think that the Jewish were quite unlucky when Hitler was in power now wouldnt you?

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Yes the Jews were unlucky under Hitler. But you could also say that Hitler was pretty unlucky, as was the Nazi party. But that has nothing to do with Hitler's selection of the Swastika or the reversal of it's design. It's based on Nordic/Germanic occult symbolism.
Hitler's obsession with the occult would have meant that, either he, or his advisors would have realised the danger of employing a sygil charged with such a negative power as that of bad luck as the main symbol for their movement. A basic understanding of sygils would spell that out in bold black letter.

Now, honestly, How much of this stuff do you actually look up and how much is self knowledge? I very seldom look things up, it is all self knowledge.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

My degree is in Visual Communications, I wrote a paper two years ago on brand identity and the third reich.

Every time I see a truck with a confederate flag sticker stuck to the bumper, I fume. People who use this flag as a symbol know very well what it is they are standing for. They are standing for the Confederate state over the Union, slavery over freedom, whites over blacks, old ideals of long-dead men being clutched to in modern times so that "redneck hunters" can feel better then somebody else.

And if you weren't so blatently ignorant and stupid you would know that none of what you just said is true.
Try reading something for a change. Because you clearly have never picked up a history book. I challenge you-go read the confederate constitution, and then read the union constitution. You would see, that the NORTH actually supported slavery. The south believes in Indentured Servents-which was paying off a debt you owed to someone.

The flag does not stand for racism, although if you wish to get technical-the flag we used today, being similar to that used for the union during the civil war, does.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

In the Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens, announced that a fundamental part of the Confederate government would "rest upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed "
-Confederate Constitution

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
-13th Ammendment to the US constitution 1865

"[The black person is] as much entitled to . . . the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness . . . as the white man."
-Abraham Lincoln, August 21, 1858

Again, your cries of stupidity and ignorance get blown out of the water. "Try reading something for a change", dipshit.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

The lack of response to these facts has been noted. Instead of repeating over and over that the Confederate flag is misunderstood, it might be more in your line to tell me why you think the confederacy was anti-slavery, when it clearly wasn't.

The vice president of the Confederacy said it himself, the confederates viewed Black people as sub-human. That is why the flag pisses people off.

Sorry that I have a life outside of ProgressiveU.

I never stated they weren't anti-slavery. I stated that they had indentured servants, people who work to pay off debts. Not only that but the north had slaves too. Like I have said before read both Constitutions and you will understand.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

I was actually addressing Redshanecks comment, the one in which she told another blogger to read something for a change.
The one where she made the ludicrous claim that the Confederacy were not proslavery. No doubt she views every comment by me as 'an attack' and won't respond to perfectly reasonable argument.

The excerts in my comment are both from the relevant constitutions, complemented with quotes from key players to illustrate the difference in attitude and intentions, despite the fact that the North had slaves prior to the end of the war.

Read both constitutions. That is all I have to say. If you don't it is in your own ignorance buddy.

You want the links I will send em to you.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

CSA Constitution

-The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.

This basically says that slaves cannot be bought from the British, who dominated the trade in African slaves. But Must be bought internally from the Confederate States.

-No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

This basically says, don't worry folks, nobody is going to mess with your rights to own slaves. Ever.

US Constitution

-The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

Slave trading was prohibited in 1808. There is nothing there to say that you can't own a slave.If this is the point you're getting at about the US constitution; the fact that owning slaves was not officially abolished until the 13th ammendment, that's just clutching at straws. Largely because as soon as the civil war ended the Union made good on making abolishment part of the constitution.

So maybe you would like to highlight what I've missed. Enlighten me fella...I have no qualms about you proving me wrong, if I am indeed wrong, I would prefer to be right in future. So let's have it.

Read a little bit deeper into the Confederate Constitution, it will explain the endentured servant ordeal.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Why don't you just spit it out?

I am tempted to reread it just to show you and several others.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Please do. I'm not being a smart ass. I would like you to. If I'm merely disseminating misinformation, I would like to be corrected. I know this may not be what you believe, but I actually like being right, not just pretending to be right. You complain that I'm ignorant and narrow minded, only because that is what you expect from somebody who disagrees with you.

You are not alone. I asked a simple question about whether or not moderate Muslims were demonstrating and marching in protest over the actions of violent extremists on another site, and was flooded with accusations of racism, and being anti-Muslim, and comments like: "Why bother answering this, you won't listen". Only one person actually directed me to extensive lists of demonstrations and marches undertaken by moderate Muslims. Which is all I wanted to know.

I just reread the whole Constitution of Confederate States and here is the article from it.

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into (financial or labor), before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as invalid against the [United] Confederate States under this Constitution, as under the [Confederation] Provisional Government.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Slaves were classified as property. So I don't see how this would effect them. They didn't enter into an engagement. They were bought. They had no say in who bought them, so how could they have entered into an engagement. This would apply to indentured servants, yes, but they were not slaves, in the strictest sense. They worked off a debt incurred through their aided immigration to America. This was something which was abused to make it a kind of slavery, but was distinct to slavery.

-No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

This clearly outlines the slaves status, under the CSA constitution, as property, and makes it clear that this status and the rights thereby afforded to slave owners would not be effected.

You are right, they were property until they bought their own freedom. They worked until they were free and then they either went to the North or stayed working for their owner for higher pay. That is well known in itself in American History.

Actually my last reading assignment in history talked about how majority of the blacks in the south stayed there after they were free.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

The ability for a slave to buy their freedom would, according to the CSA Constitution, be at the discretion of the slave owner. It states clearly that the slave owner's rights would to own a slave as PROPERTY would not be undermined. Property can't do anything, without it's owners say so.

I am not saying that slave owners didn't allow slaves to work for their freedom, as they allowed this before the constitution. But there was no obligation for slave owners under the constitution to do this as mandatory.

The reason that many free slaves stayed in the South lies with the fact that it was the place they were accustomed to. They didn't want to leave the large Black community in the South, a culture they had become used to, to move to the alien North. In some Southern states Black slaves made up aproximately 40% of the population at one point. They had their Southern culture, which they wanted to make better for themselves and their families as free men.

But even with this aside, there is still the fact that the leaders of the Confederacy declared Black people to be an inferior race, meaning that they were White Supremacists. The subsequent Jim Crow laws which they imposed further this stance, and will forever be ingrained in what the Confederate flag represents.

and the same goes for me smart one. I have a life outside of this site, I am actually RARELY on this site now. So sorry that I don't revolve my life around a stupid ass website like you do.
And now, because of this comment here-you are right, I will not respond. If you think someone should be spending every waking minute arguing with you-you've got issues.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

I was merely asking you to back up what you were claiming so arrogantly. You rudely dismiss somebody's point, and then don't back up what you are saying when challenged. You merely respond with insults.

With an insult? Do you mind telling me what the hell you are reading? I never insulted anyone, and I plainly told you-AFTER YOU tried to bring me down, I am not on this site constantly. I had not seen the response.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

"and the same goes for me smart one. I have a life outside of this site, I am actually RARELY on this site now. So sorry that I don't revolve my life around a stupid ass website like you do."

That is an insult.

My comment was relevant and pertinent o the argument. Yet you were more interested in lashing out insults, than defending your stance.

Much like the NAACP makes blacks feel more superior then whites?

See I can tell you are ignorant when it comes to history. The Confederate Flag did not mean racism until some ignorant black folk decided to make it stand for racism back in the civil rights movement. SO that means well over 150 years it was still known as a historical flag and not a racist mark on society. Why do you think some of the Southern states still have a Rebel Jack Flag integrated into their state flag? Because it doesn't mean racism. This is about as rediculous as saying that low riders and ghettos offend me because they lack white people.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

I believe that there is still "free speech" in this country and that if that man wanted to wear a confederate flag shirt and American flag undies with a Mexican flag as a cape, he could've. Sure, it's in poor taste, in my opinion. But I do believe in the freedom of expression.
However, it was wrong of the NAACP to just assume that people would and should be offended. That is up to the individual, not some organization, to decide what is and isn't offensive to them.
And for the record, I don't mind illegal immigrants and here is why: they are willing to do the jobs that many Americans are not. I worked in a place in NYC with many illegals and they were some of the hardest-working people I have ever known.

Illegals do not really bother me that much due to they really do the jobs that we don't like to do. Now if the economy was bad and Americans needed the jobs I would assume that the illegals would give up the jobs. About theo nly thing I hate is them not paying taxes but then again there are plenty of people in America that dont.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Most, if not all illegals would pay taxes in a flash if they were given the chance to work and live in America legitimately. The fact is they can't pay taxes, even if they want to.

alton adams's picture

A lot of immigrants actually pay taxes through the Tax ID program where the IRS can assign a Tax pin # so they pay taxes through that. Also, I love the Battle Flag, and have on on my car and a few in my room, mainly to show my heritage, since I had 5 relatives fight for the Confederacy (3 died in Union POW prisons from starvation). There is nothing wrong with me flying the flag, and I don't care what people think of it, because most people who would oppose it to my face have no idea what they are talking about. Plenty of free blacks fought on the side of the confederacy, close to 300,000, fighting for what most Confederate soldiers were fighting for, their homes and their pride. Most people disregard that, and you wont find it in the typical public school history books.

THANK YOU!
I was really starting to wonder if ANYONE outside my boyfriend and I knew the true meaning to the flag!

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

I didn't know that about the tax ID program. I have met and spoken to a number of illegal immigrants on the East Coast and they weren't aware of that either. None of these illegals were Mexican either, they were from European backgrounds and have University degrees.

The fact that you say you don't care what other people think about your flying of the flag doesn't change the fact that other people do care. It also doen't change the fact that it is a symbol of the pro-slavery confederacy.

The reason some Black people fought for the confederacy was the same reason some Irish fought for it. Both were seen as subhuman by the white confederates, and wanted to gain acceptance from the white majority in the South. They believed that the Confederacy would win, and wanted to make sure they weren't persecuted further as a result of not fighting. You will only find you're perverted take on this in white pride Southern propaganda.

alton adams's picture

You ought to read the memoirs of the Reverend William Mack Lee, General Lee's personal bodyservant, who, along with all of Lee's slaves, was set free some 8 years before the war. Every one of Lee's slaves stayed on with him for ample pay, and William was injured alongside Lee during the war. He fought for Southern ideals, Southern hospitality, knowing that while, yes, the larger aristocracy of the South were pro-slavery, there were progressives like Robert E. Lee who, even during the war, were working on ending slavery. Slavery was still legal in the Union during the war, until the 13th amendment in 1865, but it was used on a different scale. Since the North was industrial, most slaves were bodyservants, while the agricultural South had more slaves because sometimes hundreds of workers were needed to work one plantation.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

A minority of progressive Confederates, hardly discounts the fact that the Confederacy was pro slavery in it's constitution, or the fact that key players in it's highest ranks of ruling class held the opinion that Black people were a lower order of human than Whites.

Key figures in the Union, such as Abraham Lincoln spoke out before the 13th Ammendment about the equality of Whites to Blacks. The fact that slavery was still legal in the Union during the war is immaterial, they anounced their intentions to abolish it, and they followed through. Something which the Confederacy vowed it would never do.

So when people, see the Confederate flag, if they know anything about history, they see a symbol for White Supremacy. I mean, if even the White Pride idiots can make the connection between the Confederate flag they love so much, and it's relevance to their White Supremacist ideals, I would hope that non-racist white Southerners could join the dots. That is assuming that you are not a racist.

If it was me I'd be using some other symbol for my Southern pride, one that didn't have connotations of White Power. If you see nothing wrong with the idea of Blacks being a sub-human race, then by all means keep flying your flag so we can see the enemy comming.

alton adams's picture

I just meant to point out that one of the most influential Southerners to ever live was against slavery and was working for emancipation. And also, I am not going to try and say the Constitution of the Confederate States was not pro slavery, because it states it, plain as day. It is interesting, though, that it abolished the slave trade (that was a sort of compromise with the few abolitionists in the South, because it gave the chance that slavery would eventually die out of its own resources). I disagree though when you imply that the only thing people should see when seeing the Battle Flag is White Supremacy, because for some it has a personal meaning. I do use other symbols for Southern pride though, such as the Bonnie Blue Flag, which is the flag that I love just as much as the Battle Flag and it causes no controversy because people just don't know what it is.

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

I wasn't implying that White Supremacy should be the only thing people see when they see the Battle Flag. I was merely saying that it is one inescapable thing that people DO see when they see it. For that very reason, whether you personally are a supremacist or not, you have to realise that it offends people because it gives them the impression that you endorse such values.

If the Bonnie Blue flag doesn't provoke such a reaction, it is because it is not recognized by most people. If you want to use that to say you are proud of your Southern culture, it would make more sense, because the majority of people don't see it as a symbol for the pro-slavery Confederacy, so it's more likely to be recieved as a Southern Pride thing.

Man do not waste your breathe on him anymore. He is quite closed minded and ignorant.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Well argued fella.

At least Alton is actually being constructive in his argument.

Well I tries the common sense route and you failed to understand that. I used reasoning and you failed to understand that. So I treated a ignorant child like an ignorant child.

You really do not have a life do you? I thought I was bad on this site but you really are on this for site for majority of your day every day.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

Im a graphic designer, most of my work is done on a computer, and designs are delivered via broadband. So I log in while I'm working, and check various blogs on my breaks. I also log in as a substitute for TV, something most people spend hours watching every night, something which is passive entertainment and just rotts the brain. I watch about an hours worth of TV a week.

You'll find that from the 10th of February I won't be on at all, because I'll be in India, enjoying life. Something I'm working long hours to fund.

I multi task. Tv and computer. I am also on the computer a lot because I am a Mechnical drafter but I still do not live on progressiveu all the time.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

You are not trying to save money to go to India, while living in one of the most expensive cities in the world.

That is why I like the small town life.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

TUFFGONG's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

There's alot to be said for country life. I like to live 50/50. I love big cities like London. But need to flee to the country for at least a couple of months a year or I start to go mad.

Stinkoman's picture

The South used the confederate flag. They wanted slavery. Let's see who won, oh yes, the North. Is there something there, yes. It means that the confederate states of America no longer exsist. Which means the confederate flag is no longer a national flag. So if you are only going to fly one flag it should be the American flag. Every other flag should be lower than the American flag.

You clearly do not know anything about the Civil war other than your public school teachings. There was so many turning points in the Civil war. One battle alone influenced the end of the war my boy. Many historians believe that if the South won that one battle that they would have won.

I just can't remember the name of the battle but I will look it up if you would like.

And the Confederate flag is still a national flag. It is part of our history in which you can't erase. There are still states with the Confederate flag still part of it.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

Stinkoman's picture

First, you are talking about Gettsyburg, so my "public school" teachings paid off. It appears i'm smater than you. (Also there are at least twenty movies and books written about that battle, so it is pretty common knowledge)

Second, the confederate states of America no longer exsist, a country must exsist in order to have a national flag, the confederate states do not.

God gave you a brain. America gave you a vote. Use them togehter and wisely.

No actually the battle of Bull Run, Shiloh, and Antietitam. All three battles are either not mentioned in public school history class or is barely skimmed through.

It is still considered a National Flag. It is just people like you that refuse to reconize it. You have such an ignorant view of the Confederate Flag. Read this article ALL THE WAY THROUGH to understand what the Confederate Flag stands for. You think it is hate but even people like me protest against the KKK for using it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

Don't be ignorant, open your mind.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

alton adams's picture

Off topic, but I tend to think of 2nd Manasas (The 2nd Battle of Bull Run), Fredericksburg, Gettysburg, and Petersburg as the most crucial battles (Lee surrendered because the lines at Petersburg failed, leaving both Petersburg and Richmond vulnerable to attack).

Lemerence has spoken

Lemerence has spoken

Lemerence has spoken
The NAACP is a national chapter that does not support groups such as KKK, skinheads, mexican cartel, all mofia creeds, the Taliban, drug dealers or gangsters. All the time that you have not respecting another race or creed and that negative energy, could go towards having a better income,education, personal relationships, religion and other self satisfaction. Life is very short. Do not waste your life worrying about races, creeds, genders. I know that YOU are way to smart to make yourself look and sound like a FOOL! I use to worry about all sorts of things and it got me nowhere. I believe that each person is entitled to Freedom of Speech; that is in the First Amendement. I hope that you do know what an Amendment is, right? I also know that as an American and as a human being I have a right, along with many others to stop ignorant people like YOU from being voiced. Ask yourself these Q&A. Have I gotten my highschool diploma or college degree from thinking like this? Why am I so obessed with African Americans? Do I have a vehicle? Am I in a relationship? Do I plan to retire with 500,000 or 100,000 in my 401k plan? Where am I going on vacation to this year? If you have children or in the future what schools do I want them to go to? Do I want to get married or not?
Please, as of right now do not waste your time on trying to put down the NAACP. I feel sorry for you. I hope that you realize all the time that you spend on this sad, lonely, web site, that you are missing out on a wonderful life. I think that you deserve the 6 fiqure income, beautiful husband/wife, healthy mind, spirit, body, children, the American dream. The dream of becoming a reality.
The dream will never come for you, because you are obessed with Black people. Leave them alone. If you do not have any of those simple items of Life by the time you retire at 62 half, then you let Black people turn you into the ignorant ni**er that you are!

You are right. The NAACP does not support the KKK or anything. Instead they baby the black race. They are the crutch to the black people. I think that the black race would be better off without it because all the NAACP does is fight for special rights just for black people. They complain about everything. Hell if I fly a Confederate Flag I wouldn't be surprised if they knock on my door. You do not see some white national chapter telling the black race not to fly the African flag or wear the African colors. The only reason that hasn't happened is because a white national chapter is racist. I really do not see the difference between a white national chapter and a black one. They both would/are equally racist.

I just find the black race to contradict themselves which in turn makes their own race look bad. They claim for equal rights but yet they have all these groups that fight for special rights just because of their skin color. Is that fair? Hell no it isnt.

BTW for your questions.

Yes I have gotten my diploma thinking like this along with my degree at the end of this semester. I am not as vulgar as I may seem on this site. I have plenty of black friends that agree with me on the things I say. Try having an open mind and stop taking offense to every little thing and you might understand yourself. This is what makes me feel like I am on a higher level then most people on this site.

Yes I have a vehicle that I paid for. I have been working since I was 14. I am also in a relationship with a girl who shares the same views.

I don't care to retire because I would rather die working at a job then wasteing away sitting at home. I also do not care that much about money. Money is the root of all evil on this planet. It is more negative then it is positive. I could care less if I make 100 grand a year as long as I have a farm and be able to live comfortable.

I am going to Graceland in Memphis Tennessee this summer, I do plan on getting married, and my kids will go to the same exact school I did. I want my kids to be raised in a bluecollar school because I would rather have them learn the value of a dollar. I would rather have my kids work in a factory setting rather then in a business building where they debate everyday whether to jump out the window or not. White collar is too stressful.

I may be ignorant but your just as ignorant. Until you know everything in this world you will always be ignorant.

Try having an educated debate not running your mouth in offense. That alone is making you ignorant because you refuse to hear both sides of a problem even though you may not like it. I listened to your side and I answered what you wanted. I responded to a few remarks and told you my stance on what you wrote. That is a part of the process of debating. You should learn it and stop running your mouth because all that does is close your mind as every word comes out.

So now you can get off your high horse and stop preaching because it is my choice and my opinion not yours.

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

Blues's picture

I'm back my favorite redneck and I see that you are up to your usually tirades about black people...

"You do not see some white national chapter telling the black race not to fly the African flag or wear the African colors."

Inherently, within the context that has repeatedly been discussed, the Confederate flag is a symbol of a pro-slavery nation, thus it is based on racism, being that racism is "to distinguish it(race) as inferior or superior to another race or races." And since African flags are not based on a pro-slavery nation, which has at its center racism, than equating Confederate flags to African flags is a fallacy of your argument.

"I really do not see the difference between a white national chapter and a black one."

Within the context that America was founded by white males, thus the basis of power was within the hands of white males; America itself is a white national chapter, thus there is no need for a white national chapter. This leads to the reason why there is a Black national chapter. Considering Blacks are not represented in proportion to their population, it is conducive that, given their minority position, that they have some sort of National Chapter that represents the population that is underrepresented.

"I just find the black race to contradict themselves which in turn makes their own race look bad. They claim for equal rights but yet they have all these groups that fight for special rights just because of their skin color. Is that fair? Hell no it isnt."

Equal rights, meaning that every person has an equal opportunity to succeed in America, and Blacks DO NOT have an equal opportunity to succeed in America, is something Blacks try to obtain through "special rights" that attempts to equalized a playing field, which whites have greatly unequaled through slavery, Jim Crow, and etc.

It's impossible to be an artist and a bread winner at the same time. Sometimes I think I oughta chuck the whole business.
-Amiri Baraka

The south was into the slavery as much as the north was. SO in turn the American Flag should not be flown either.

It is fair that there are not that many blacks in the government. It is called democracy where the majority rules. It is life, they need to stop whining.

And I see where you come from on the national chapters. But where is the asian, latino, native american, and any other minority national chapters. They may actually have one for all of those but you never hear them whine because they don't get their way.

And the black person has as much opportunities to suceed in AMerica. They have the possibility to move from the ghettos to better neighborhoods. It is called loans, my parents and every other white family I know had to start off in debt to get the life they have now. It is not going to be any different for a black family. So pretty much it really is the black peoples fault that they do not succeed. It is not impossible, just hard. But yet again who said life was easy?

http://www.colbertnation.com/
http://www.NRA.org/

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.