Us Versus Them: How Innocents are Sent to Guantanamo

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I wrote this after reading "The End of America", by Naomi Wolf, a book which I highly recommend.

In “The End of America”, Naomi Wolf asserts that even the average American citizen should be worried about America’s possible shift into fascism, and the increased oppression and persecution of ordinary people – yet few Americans are, in fact, worried. Many doubt America’s alleged use of torture, unlawful imprisonment, etc, or believe that such things would never happen to them – that they only happen to the “enemy”.

Before reading “The End of America”, I, too, didn’t think I had anything to worry about, either. I believed that only “real” terrorists – i.e., murderers or those plotting murder – were imprisoned in places such as Guantamano, and any discomfort they experienced was only to get them to reveal information that could save lives. I believed that all Americans could easily get access to a lawyer if they were arrested, receive information about the charges and evidence against them, post bail, and get a speedy trial.

Now, I’m not so sure. Does the war against terror only target true threats, or can any American be treated as a dangerous terrorist? Wolf claims it is the latter, and is very convincing in backing up this claim.

America’s use of “secret prisons” – prisons that often function as interrogation camps and are considered outside the rule of law – may come as a shock to many Americans. It certainly came as a shock to me. I had heard a bit about Guantanamo, but not quite understood what it is and what it functions as. I had heard a bit about cases of torture and unlawful imprisonments, but believed that such cases were only isolated incidents of no real consequences, and their victims only terrorists.

However, Wolf shows that such prisons commonly abuse human rights, and that such abuses are sanctioned by the Bush administration. As early as March ’02, President Bush sought to legalize torture at such prisons, claiming that the Geneva Convention should not apply to the conflict with al-Queda or the Taliban. The Taft-Haynes Memo, also known as the “torture memo”, concludes that in order for the infliction of physical pain to be considered torture, it “must be of an intensity akin to that which accompanies serious physical injury such as death or organ failure.” For the infliction of mental pain to be considered torture, it must arise from physical pain and have long-lasting psychological effects such as PTSD.

Under such broad definitions of torture can and are used at Guantanamo and similar prisons. Prisoners can be kept in extreme heat or cold, be hooded and naked in solitary confinement for days, be denied food, beaten, threatened, and far more.

Some might think that surely such things happen only to “real” terrorists – dangerous murderers who would go on to kill many more if they were not caught and interrogated. Although the thought of torture is distasteful to me, I might agree to its use if I believed that it would save lives. However, Wolf points out, torture has not been shown to be an effective means of gaining information. Under torture, false confessions are more likely.

Wolf gives several examples of people, both US citizens and not, who suffered abuse in such prisons during unlawful and unreasonable imprisonment. For instance, she cites a study done by Seton Hall University, which shows that most Guantanamo prisoners are not terrorists, but innocent villagers swept up by the Northern Alliance warlords of Afghanistan simply for the sizeable bounty the US pays for each prisoner.

Wolf then cites another study (Ratner and Ray, “Guantanamo: What the World Should Know”), which gives a graphic account of how prisoners are treated en route to Guantanamo and at the prison itself.

The study describes how at least in one occasion, Northern Alliance soldiers kept prisoners inside metal shipping containers, in conditions of extreme heat and crowding. In order to stop the prisoners from suffocating, they shot holes into the containers, killing some of the prisoners inside. This example is particularly chilling to me, as it reminds me of the conditions suffered by the Jews and other groups targeted by the Nazis, when they were taken in crowded shipping containers, by train, to concentration camps and death camps.

Once at Guantanamo, conditions don’t improve for the prisoners. Many suffer permanent injuries and even death from abusive treatment. Few of the interrogators and guards who harm or kill prisoners are ever sentenced. Only fourteen members of the military out of the thirty-four suspected of causing a prisoner’s death have been sentenced at all – with the highest jail sentence being five months.

As well as being physically and mentally abused in Guantanamo, prisoners are repeatedly interrogated under torture and duress, and they or their families threatened if they do not give a “confession”. They are often unable to see a lawyer for months or even years. They can be imprisoned even with no evidence against them, without even hearing of the charges against them.

These prisoners, Wolf says, are not terrorists – they are just ordinary people, like you and I. She points out how the Espionage Act of 1917 allows the government to label people who have committed no crime as “traitors”, “terrorists”, “collaborators”, and so forth. The Espionage Act makes it illegal for an “unauthorized” person to have “unlawful possession of information relating to the national defense”. This law is now making a comeback, with people being arrested, imprisoned, and convicted for “crimes” like a reporter accepting a leak from a government employee. A person who overhears the wrong conversation or posts the wrong photograph on the internet can, too, find themselves being treated as a “terrorist”, even if they have no such involvement.

After reading Wolf’s examples of ordinary people imprisoned in Guantanamo, I agree with her – and feel that even the average American should be concerned about their own risk of being imprisoned. There is a line between “us” and “them”, but it’s becoming more and more blurred. If we remain indifferent to the increasing oppression of others, eventually we will be those oppressed, and who will come to help us then?

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this blog is very interesting. It goes along with my newest blog on how the FBI is spying on American citizens.

http://www.progressiveu.org/145933-fbi-continues-invade-our-privacy-name...

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It is truly amazing to think that anyone would want to legalize any kind of torture. It would seem that all it would do is promote a God-complex. Not only would it run the risk of toturing innocents, but I couldn't begin to imagine what kind of effect it would have on those responsible for carrying out the torturous deeds. What would happen to the torturers after all is said and done?

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chillbill's picture

but he is an ideological moron. Good post, The tiny amount of inteligence seems very unlikely to be as helpful as being perceived as evil is harmful. In fairness they have prevented further attacks by AlQueda on American soil, and we will never know what info led to stoping any that might have happened.

The whole war on terror is a flawed concept. You cannot defeat a tactic, which is all terror is. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter which puts us in the position of helping dictators oppress their people (see uzbekistan). If you must fight it is better to be defending yourself, or promoting positive ideals, not against ambiguous ones.

Can you clarify:
"Northern Alliance soldiers kept prisoners inside metal shipping containers, in conditions of extreme heat and crowding. In order to stop the prisoners from suffocating, they shot holes into the containers, killing some of the prisoners inside."

This was our Afgan allies treating their taliban prisoners this way? Was there any consent or involvement by American troops before these prisoners were delivered to us?
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"This law is now making a comeback, with people being arrested, imprisoned, and convicted for “crimes” like a reporter accepting a leak from a government employee. A person who overhears the wrong conversation or posts the wrong photograph on the internet can, too, find themselves being treated as a “terrorist”, even if they have no such involvement."

Is this just possible, or are there specific examples of where it has happened?

Truth is a demure lady, much too ladylike to knock you on your head and drag you to her cave. She is there, but people must want her, and seek her out.
William F. Buckley, Jr.

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This was our Afgan allies treating their taliban prisoners this way? Was there any consent or involvement by American troops before these prisoners were delivered to us?

Wait, where did I say "Afgan allies" or "Taliban prisoners"? The Northern Alliance soldiers are not (I hope) our allies. They terrorized Afghanistan before the US came in and they still are now due to that ridiculous bounty. The prisoners are not Taliban. They're just whoever the NA came across and decided to name as Taliban.

Is this just possible, or are there specific examples of where it has happened?

Yes, it has happened.

I don't have time to do all the research for you now, but I strongly recommend you read "The End of America" by Naomi Wolf, it's a fairly easy read imo, plus there's a couple reports accessible online about Guantunamo (one by Ratner and Ray, one by Seton Hall University - try google) that also have more information. The book though is the place to start.

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"Wait, where did I say "Afgan allies" or "Taliban prisoners"? The Northern Alliance soldiers are not (I hope) our allies. They terrorized Afghanistan before the US came in and they still are now due to that ridiculous bounty. The prisoners are not Taliban. They're just whoever the NA came across and decided to name as Taliban. "

I think your characterization of the Northern alliance is a little off. They were fighting the Taliban, who controlled the majority of the country before 9/11. They are several tribes that did not want to live under islamic theocracy. Afganistan has been at war constantly since 1980 so I doubt the morality they have would be acceptable by our standards, but it is equal to that of their opponents.

'They terrorized Afganistan' matches both them and their opponents who had dominated the conflict. It describes both sides of every war. You are not saying that the Taliban were their innocent victims are you?

We expelled and captured the Taliban fighters and government with a relatively small US force because most of the territory was captured by our allies against the Taliban (they were unpopular and had more than one enemy), while our forces took the major troop concentrations, roads, and isolated the cities. You did not mention them being our allies, but that is what they were.

Your statement that 'the prisoners are not Taliban' matches the one sided presentation of this subject, but you just think they may not be Taliban would be a more unbiased way to express your feelings about the facts which you assume, but have no evidence of. I am confident that the Northern Alliance would rather sell us Taliban, but you are correct if you think a bounty creates a good chance that they just want the money, and might up the headcount with innocents.

I did look for stories like those you described. The reporters being arrested for having information from a government informant seems like the type story that gets big headlines, but I came up empty. You have the book, and keywords like names involved. Would it be too much trouble to google for a second or two and post a link?

Truth is a demure lady, much too ladylike to knock you on your head and drag you to her cave. She is there, but people must want her, and seek her out.
William F. Buckley, Jr.

Kiota's picture

Get the book. Seriously.

The second source is also a book, though there are excerpts available online.

law.shu.edu/aaafinal.pdf <-- Seton Hall University study. Quite a few interesting studies there actually about the subject.

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