Why does anyone care

I'm not saying its right or wrong, but you can't expect people to change what they always been taught quickly.

I realize the comment I am about to post will be very controversial, but hey, what's the point if I can't state an opinion? I understand that a lot of people who are opposed to gay marriage just say "It's gross," or defiles the sanctity of marriage. I agree more with the latter of the two. Consider this though. Some churches, including, for example, some Catholic churches approve of gay marriage. The also say they believe in th Bible right?!?! Well, that seems awfully contradictary, doesn't it? Take for example, the well-known Biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible clearly states that two angelic visitors came to Sodom and Gomorrah desiring to have homosexual relations...and that Sodom and Gomorrah were known for their homosexual acts. What happend in the end? Well, for one thing, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their sinful act, which the Bible clearly shows involved homosexual desires. The Bible also describes homosexual desires as being "unnatural." Therefore, they are cannot be inborn. So, no one can say "God mad me this way," because the Bible makes it clear that homosexual desires are "unnatural" and that God does not approve. (Jude 1:7, 1 Cor. 6:9). In fact, the Bible clearly and distincly shows that God views homosexual acts as acts of "uncleanness," and as something "disgraceful,""obscene," (Romans 1:24-27). So, if you believe what the Bible says, would you want to be doing somethin that the Bible says God does not like, but even abhors? No, of course not! And, you know what? That is not my own opinion, that is what the Bible says, so it is God's opinion (John 7:17 & 18, 2 Peter 1:20 & 21, 2 Timothy 3:16, Romans 15:4) And, yes the Bible is a practical guide for our day (by no means is it simply old-fashioned).(Romans 1:28-32, 1 Corinthians 1:21 & 25, 1 Timothy 6:20, Psalm 119:105, 2 Peter 1:19, Proverbs 3:5 & 6). Don't make up your mind rashly and reply to my comment without referring to my sources. I am not making this stuff up; it is not my own opinion; I am simply explaining what the Bible says.
~pyrochica

I'm a Christian, so of course I have my qualms about homosexuality, however it doesn't keep me from tolerating the concept. One of the best people I know is gay.

But as for the not affecting us bit, it does indeed. Certain STDs caused by homosexuality will definitely effect everyone's health plans and taxes.

When my classmates and I get into arguement about gay marriages they always bring up the Bible and tell me how God says it is not right for two people of the same sex to be together. Well, what if the people do not believe in God, or have a different religion that does not include God? How can we say it is wrong then? I also agree with mary when she said it does not affect us because I have hanged around gay people before and they do not affect me.

but does the bible also say we shouldn't eat pork? As for the STD's I don't really believe that MARRIAGE would affect this? I'm not really asking if gay marriage is right or wrong because there is no changing some peoples opinions, I'm simply saying that most of the arguments out there would not actually affect anything. Birth rate, not so much. If they are gay they will not be having kids anyway, if they are married they might adopt. Divorce rates have gone down in other countries that allow gay marriage. Thanks for all your comments though.

The Bible has exactly seven different admonitions regarding homosexuality. How about we evaluate ourselves before judging others. If we're being Biblical, "Look not at the speck in your neighbor's eye; when you have a moat in your own." Or even take a glance at the Ten Commandments, the Ten main rules God passed down to the Israelites contained nothing condemning homosexuality. Instead we are to "Honor thy Father and Mother"...yes, because every child follows this rule. "Keep the Sabbath holy." Try and tell me you take the Sabbath off for holy reasons each and every weekend. I could continue on with God calling shellfish an abomination, but I'm feeling rather long-winded right now. All in all, the Bible is against quite a few things, I just find it amusing that Christians get so riled up over seven different occurences in the Bible.

uh huh...i think it's stupid. ugh i want to argue all my points, but im tired and they are so long......

lol. The night is just beginning for me, this is when I'm at my prime, just steeling myself for a debate of sorts.

Well...generally if your points are long, that means they're worthwhile. Store them and present them when you've had adequate sleep, that way they'll actually make sense, rather than sleep deprived drivel. heh. =)

ha ha well i used to be up til 3 then 17 credit hours and 40 hours a week hit me and now im more of a sleeper. i will save them up until im in a good enough mood to type.

The comment by pyrochica is exactly why so many people won't listen to Christians. I am a Christians and it irritates the crap out of me when I see fellow believers using arguments that have already been defeated.

"Two angelic visitors came to S&G looking to have homosexual relations."

Wrong. They came looking to have ANY sexual relations. LUST is the sin here, not homosexuality. If you read your bible, you'll notice that two young girls, the daughters, are handed over to these angelic visitors. Now tell me, why on earth would someone interested solely in homosexual activity settle for girls? And more importantly, why are you using a story in which two innocent girls are handed over to be raped, or have sexual relations outside of marriage, in the name of God, as an argument?

THINK, PEOPLE!

P.S. As a Christian I think it's up to the CHURCH to decide what it will allow in the sacrament of marriage, but as far as the STATE goes, ALL Americans should have equal rights.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. --Jimi Hendrix