I don’t believe that the (Saudi) terrorist is bad people or evil in any shape or form. Did Saudi Al-Queda declare war on America when they hijack planes and destroyed the twin towers? Yes, and they continue to fight the war that they declare on 9/11 by killing American soldiers in Iraq but it isn’t enough to rationale an attack on Saudi Arabia.
Why do I say that because American corporations continue to do business with Saudi Arabia? Just a couple weeks ago, Bush went to meet with King Al-queda of Saudi Arabia to beg him to lower the price of oil. King Al-queda response by saying that the market should decide the price of oil and continue raising the price of his Al-queda oil to Americans who need it for their SUV and Hummers.
If (Saudi) terrorist, the people who attack America on 9/11 were bad or evil, then why would Bush go and meet King Al-queda of Saudi Arabia? These (Saudi) terrorist probably isn’t as bad or evil as they seen because they get rewarded with American dollars at the gas pump. If they were so bad, why do Americans buy Al-Queda oil/gas for their hummers and SUV?
After the (Saudi Arabian) al-queda declares war on the USA, They were rewarded with 20 million dollars worth of arms and they also got a major eastern port. That is how much the (Saudi) al-queda is respected and admire for their terrorist actions against Americans. If they were evil and bad, they would never have gotten the port (which didn’t went through but did get major supports from Bush and many right wingers) nor would they get rewarded with 20 million dollars worth of arms.
It is like after the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor and FDR response by attacking China because they are Asians. Than the Japanese government (after pearl harbor) get rewarded with the port of Long Beach and other major ports in the west because congressmen justify it by saying that it is a business deal not a political one and the Japanese should be trusted with the ports shipment even through they attack Pearl Harbor. (This didn't happen, but i am trying to make a comparison between Japan and Saudi Arabian.)
Can you image what it would be like having the Japanese gov.t controlling major ports of the USA after they destroyed Pearl Harbor. That is what almost happens when an Al-queda company own by Saudi Arabia did and they had the full backing of the right wings and Bush. So you see, the (Saudi) terrorist isn’t bad or evil at all, after all Bush and the right wing trusted them enough to handle a port even through they declare war on America on 9/11.
The (Saudi) terrorist is still respected and loves by the american people. Bush went to meet with King Al-queda of Saudi Arabia and all he ask the king was to lower the price of oil, he didn't ask him “Can you please stop killing American soldiers in Iraq” or “Why are you using all the money that you made from selling oil to Americans to kill Americans” or even “why are your people killing and helping terrorist groups that attack Israel and why do your people made up the largest terrorist action than any middle eastern country combine?” No, none of these, just “please lower the price of oil because your largest customer can't afford it anymore and their economy is going bad."
The (Saudi) terrorist get rewarded constantly because of the oil/gas that Americans buy for their SUV and Hummers. Here is how it works:
Saudi Arabia oil’s field -> $ -> Exxon Mobile -> $ -> American’s consumers for their SUV/Hummers -> $ -> Exxon Mobile -> $ -> Saudi Arabian -> $ -> individuals and private charities -> $ -> Saudi Arabian al-queda -> kills American soldiers in Iraq (they make up 45% of insurgent).
So you see, they are not that bad or evil because they are trusted enough to provide oil/gas for American SUV/Hummers. And don’t quote me Canada/Mexico or Latin America because I am sure you had confused it with NAFTA and CAFTA. Did you know that the Persian Gulf, which holds two-thirds of global oil reserves and as long as we need oil, we need the Persian Gulf?
I don’t believe in the whole war on terror thing, because if Bush were serious he would have invaded Saudi Arabia or Nuclear Pakistan but he didn’t, in fact they are rewarded with arms and money. He would had continue the job in Afghanistan by capturing Saudi Arabian Osama Bin Laden in Tora Bora in stead of rewarding him by letting him go into Nuclear (mushroom cloud) Pakistan who is currently being govern by Al-Queda terrorist leader, Al-Queda Musharraf.
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You need to fix the grammar, no offense but it reads the way by 8 year old cousin talks. Wow, calling everyone who you don't agree with Al-Qaeda is rude. Yes the Saudi's have terrorists coming out of the woodwork, doesn't mean the King is King Al- Qaeda, you really need to grow up.
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yourfuneralguy
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Please fix your grammar and your sources.
The Saudis government arrests terrorists and is against terrorism.....
Murder, Killing, and the destruction of life are very evil. That is the consensus of most human beings I know.
"It is like after the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor and FDR response by attacking China because they are Asians. Than the Japanese government (after pearl harbor) get rewarded with the port of Long Beach and other major ports in the west because congressmen justify it by saying that it is a business deal not a political one and the Japanese should be trusted with the ports shipment even through they attack Pearl Harbor."
... can I have sources, please?
I don't know a whole lot about that... but I'm pretty sure FDR was approving funds for China around that time... and that in 1937 (ish) China was at war with Japan.
I could be wrong... but frankly, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Not only were the facts totally over my head, the whole comment was hard to follow. First you're upset that FDR supposedly attacked China because they were Asian. Then you're upset that Japan got a free port?
I'm very confused.
Please explain.
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yourfuneralguy
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I second the motion.
"Can I have the sources please"
He is just comparing attacking Iraq because of Saudi citizens attacking on 911 is as silly as that would have been.
We attacked the Japanese because they attacked us.
We attacked Iraq because........?
I hope that's what he's saying....
"Alliance - in international politics, the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other's pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third."
Ambrose Bierce
Hmmm...
After re-reading that, I think I see what you're saying.
Lrgf4evr just meant that us attacking Saudi was like if FDR had chosen to attack China...
Right?
If that's the case, I think it just wasn't clear.
It does help make the point, though... although I can't entirely say I agree with that, either ;-)
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What's the worst that could happen, apart from all of us being flattened or fried or whatever bombs do? [Rudy Steiner from The Book Thief]
http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
The government is trying their damndest to keep the country out of recession.
Asking for lower oil prices and trying to keep fossil fuels (a GIGANTIC market) attainable is extremely important right now.
I foresee a depression...
and it's because no one has any faith in the economy.
Can't succeed without faith.
Apparently there are more important things than being a strategic politician and using that strategy to better the country you're working for.
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What's the worst that could happen, apart from all of us being flattened or fried or whatever bombs do? [Rudy Steiner from The Book Thief]
http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
A bad depression as well especially now that we have inflating an already weak dollar. The dollar is crashing making our economy weak which makes the rest of the country weak which leads to depression or at the rate of our falling dollar, a possible bankrupty of the United States of America altoghether.
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yourfuneralguy
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Do you think we should buy gold coins now?
I have no idea. I'm a senior in HS with little economic training, so I don't know if we should or not, however gold is safer.
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yourfuneralguy
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"I foresee a depression...
and it's because no one has any faith in the economy.
Can't succeed without faith."
Very Perceptive. Can I have your autograph? Serious.
I foresee a depression too and yes for lack of faith. When do you see the depression coming?
If no one believes in you, you can't advance.
I just figure it has to be the same (or similar) with the economy. If everyone thinks it sucks, the chances of it getting better are slim.
Of course faith isn't the only reason things like the economy fail.
But think about it... if we saw the current issues in a positive, progressive light, I think it would be a heck of a lot easier to fix them.
But everyone's afraid and no one has any faith in the way our economy is running, so it can't be fixed.
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What's the worst that could happen, apart from all of us being flattened or fried or whatever bombs do? [Rudy Steiner from The Book Thief]
http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
If those terrorists had attacked Exxon......You would be closer to making a point and they could have harmed us more.
Just because you are being evil because someone else did it first does not make you good, or even mitigate your guilt.
To see a world in a grain of sand
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand
And eternity in an hour.
-William Blake
Pleas say that you aren't serious. That this is some sort of ironic statement. Really. Just say that you're trying to make a point that we shouldn't deal with the Saudi's and you'll make my life so much easier.
(Oh, and by the way. Osama Bin-Laden is strongly opposed to the Saudi monarchy.)
"Alliance - in international politics, the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other's pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third."
Ambrose Bierce
I think that's the idea.
Sarcasm isn't easily transmittable over the Internet, lgrf...just give us a message at the end like "This is, of course, sarcastic" or just [/sarcasm]. I like that one.
--Samus
(if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention)